BP Oil Spill

[Mysteriosphenom1224]

I dont usually get into a serious mood on this forum but there's a good cause now, the reason? Well there's this big thing going down in the gulf coast. The Deepwater Horizon oil spill Also know as the BP oil spill, has been affecting wildlife and ecosystems down south, not to mention the oil is drifting up coast to the northern states. anyways the oil has not stopped pumping up since the oil rig exploded in late May early June. the damage is devastating and costly. Just wanted to bring some light on this subject here on the forum because, you never know, maybe a few of us will help out with this situation. you can help out by visiting the gulf coast because they can really use your tourist dollars to try and recover from this disaster. if not then talk about it, and get other people to help the coast.

here's some good videos showing some of the damage the oil spill has caused
http://g4tv.com/videos/46934/BP-Gulf-Oi ... vastation/
http://g4tv.com/videos/46971/BP-Oil-Spi ... -Wildlife/

you can find other great video's and articles all over the news or tv or internet.

[Ed Burns]

I'm surprised it took this long for anyone to post anything about the Spill. It's what, 67 days since this whole disaster started, and we're no closer to seeing the flow of Oil stopped. Where's all the celebrities doing telethons, and concerts for this whole situation??? Larry King had a 2 hour telethon... I know it's not a natural disaster like Katrina was, but there's alot of livelihoods going down the shitter right now. Tourism has dropped in the region due to the disaster. I'm not saying the celebrities should pay for anything, or spend copious amounts of time doing telethons, but seeing as celebrities are the most recognizable people, they could help out by advertising the various charities that are aiding the people affected in the region...

[cannibalcow]

do you know of any sites where you can donate money? i feel awful for all the wildlife dying/getting hurt because of this it's so terrible....

[Veritas]

Nuke. The. Well.

I'm not even joking. In Russia, when a well bursts like this, they drill a high-consumption low-yield nuke down to the well and detonate it. The heat collapses the well. The reason this hasn't been done is because BP still wants the oil, and it would be politically damaging.

I say...nuke the fucking thing. Now. Make BP pay billions.

And then, do what every other country in the world has done, and nationalize the oil industry.

[Mysteriosphenom1224]

I'm surprised it took this long for anyone to post anything about the Spill.

I know that's why i posted this topic, i thought it was long enough of a wait, and because the show i mainly watch A.O.T.S. took time to go down to the gulf and do some coverage of the oil spill. Attack of the show is usually a break from the major news and is an hour of relief and relax for me usually, but if they took the time to touch on this topic i think it's my turn to touch on this.

do you know of any sites where you can donate money? i feel awful for all the wildlife dying/getting hurt because of this it's so terrible....

a good site is http://www.gnof.org/programs/gulf-coast ... ulf-coast/ or redcross.org. and lastly:

Nuke. The. Well.

I'm not even joking. In Russia, when a well bursts like this, they drill a high-consumption low-yield nuke down to the well and detonate it.

Veritas........they actually NUKE open oil pipes?!?!

[Ed Burns]

They're actually passing some stiff regulations on the Oil Industry here in the U.S... How it's priced is gonna change. The heavy speculation that increased the prices so dramatically the last few years is now gonna be a thing of the past. The other regulations are safety oriented, which seeing as we have created the biggest oil disaster ever, is too little too late. I think they should do whatever it takes to eliminate the leak in the Gulf... Fuck the oil... How much damage is BPs greed gonna continue to cause???

[Veritas]

Veritas........they actually NUKE open oil pipes?!?!

Why wouldn't they? Nuclear combustion is so fast and hot that it can't ignite oil - it simply vaporizes it, melting the bedrock into volcanic glass.

[Mysteriosphenom1224]

wow but wouldn't that affect the wildlife in the water? but that would only be if they use a large amount of nuclear material right?

[Veritas]

The device is detonated in the bedrock, not on the ocean floor. To be fair, it's never been done under water, but you would drill a hole down to the well, halfway down the bedrock, and....boom.

[Ed Burns]

There's a first time for everything... Then they should attempt to do this immediately. What are the drawbacks of doing this type of manuever???

[cannibalcow]

a good site is http://www.gnof.org/programs/gulf-coast ... ulf-coast/ or redcross.org. and lastly:

thank you, i'll keep donating whenever i have some spare $$$ :/

[Veritas]

There's a first time for everything... Then they should attempt to do this immediately. What are the drawbacks of doing this type of manuever???

Use the wrong nuke and the radiation can break into the sea bed, contaminating it. You know, because the sea bed right now is all clean and shit.

You deny access to the oil for a very long time, is the primary drawback.

[Ed Burns]

They're currently building wells all over the place down in the region now, would those be affected by doing this type of manuever, provided everything is done correctly?

[Insanity_X]

They're currently building wells all over the place down in the region now, would those be affected by doing this type of manuever, provided everything is done correctly?

Around the world? no. Other places in the area, probably not. There'd be a hell fo a cincussion wave though, and lots of dead fish. If I was BP, I'd save nuking for last.

[Veritas]

Around the world? no. Other places in the area, probably not. There'd be a hell fo a cincussion wave though, and lots of dead fish. If I was BP, I'd save nuking for last.

That's the biggest concern - shockwave. But, to be honest….they've already killed off a lot of the fish in the area. It's possible that with a very small yield device, they could minimize the damage.

[Insanity_X]

Shockwaves hit fish hard

[Nick]

Veritas, I'm going to agree with you on nuking it. I mean if the Soviets could do it, why not us? Even though they didn't care about the environment or people's opinions for that matter, it's the only method I can see actually working. So what if BP still wants the oil, it's their fucking fault. Make them pay for a proper sized nuke and have them send that shit in there. Even though the slightest miscalculation could send the radiation outwards into the sea.

On IX's part, Nuking might be a last resort. Oh what the hell, send the nuke in. I mean I highly doubt BP could clean all of this shit up.

[RAL]

I'm really wondering how this will affect things in the long run. With so much oil pouring into the ocean, it'll probably take years to clean up. Along with that, can you imagine how much marine life will have died off by then? Another thing I wonder is why everyone's so worried about the oil supply running out when there's this much pouring out of one well. Anyway, what really bothers me is that Obama's taking responsibility for this. This had nothing to do with him. I mean, yeah; help fix it. But taking complete responsibility is gonna get him entirely blamed for it when it's BP's fault. In another sense, though, I think it's really responsible of him.

[Veritas]

1. It will take a long time to clean up, and marine life will be badly affected for a long time. However, we can clean it up...it'll be easier once the oil stops.

2. The reason we're worried about the oil supply is very simple. It's a finite resource. Yes, the Deepwater Horizon spill is dumping a lot of oil into the gulf - between 60,000 and 100,000 gallons of oil per day, depending on the source and the day. By comparison, the USA alone consumes 19,497,950 barrels per day (2008 statistic). Furthermore, Saudi Arabia (the largest oil producing nation) pumps out about 10,782,000 barrels per day. Despite the fact that there are still a lot of oil reserves left on the planet, they are much harder to access than the oil we have already consumed. That is to say, we have to pay a lot more per gallon of oil we drill today than we did 20 years ago; we will have to pay even more in the future. This increase is above and beyond inflation. Combined with increased consumption, decreasing reserves and increasing difficulty in tapping them are leading us to an oil peak; if we haven't already passed it.

3. Obama is the President. It's his job to get things done. Furthermore, his administration had 1.5 years to sort out the crap from the previous one, and they didn't.