Insanity_X wrote:Nickiefeet wrote:I have been a fan of professional wrestling for almost all of my 44 years of existence on this planet. I have seen some good things, and some bad. Well...wrestling and the WWE are really bad right now, and I do not see any hope in sight.
Bleak outlook.Here are my points...
I hope they're good ones.1. There is not enough decent talent to fill two shows a week.
Really? The rising ratings, and youth push say otherwise.And this will continue to be a problem as other wrestlers retire and join the likes of JB L, HBK, and Batista.
Funny how two of those names were suddenly made stars after being nothing more than midcarders for most off their prior careers.I see Edge retiring soon
You're probably right.I think Cena will leave within the next few years to make movies
The same John Cena who slated The Rock for doing the same thing? Not happening.I see Matt Hardy going to TNA
Not. A. Star.HHH is not getting any younger
But still has a good few years in him. He's 40, but isn't over the hill yet. He's also seems to have realised that the future is more important than him and is acting accordingly. Just ask Sheamus.and Taker can't stay healthy long enough to make an impact.
That's been the case for years. His absence also makes no difference to Smackdown's ratings.This week there was 4 matches on smakdown on a 2 hour show! And one of them was a divas match.
So? That's not far from the norm.2. WWE has not had a decent storyline in 5 years.
nXtWo begs to differ.This is probobly a cause and effect of having not enough talent. Because everyone has wrestled everyone a million times over.
No. Just no.3. The prduction of the show is also terrible.
Really? I think the production of the show is fantastyic. The camera work is spectacular and everythong looks professional. Want to see bad production? Watch TNA.We spend half an episode of Raw watching what happened the past couple weeks.
No. Also, what's the bad thing here?My suggestion to the WWE would be for them to make program people will make time to watch or at least set their recorder to see, so they do not have to punish the people who do watch it with countless viewings of previous weeks events.
nXtWo. Over five million people watched last week. People want to watch.4. Trying to strive for a PG rating is killing the product.
No it isn't.Stopping the match because a guy gets a boo boo and there is some blood is the stupidest thing I have ever seen.
No it isn't. Yes, it disrupts the flow of the match, but it is HARDLY the stupidest thing WWE has ever done. It also makes a LOT of buisness sense, as WWE is trying to move from being regulated by the athletics commission to the entertainment commision. Vince isn't in the Wrasslin' buisness any more. Get over it.If the little kids get upset when they see their wrestler bleed, then don't take them to wrestling.
Not to do with the fans. See: trying to change regulators. Blood is a no-no to be regulated by the same people as Two and a Half MenEven though it is entertainment, THEY ARE ENTERTAINING US BY SIMULATED FIGHTING!!!
So are people watching people fighting in a soap operaPeople bleed when they fight.
They don't cut themselves with razorblades in a fight.We go from being told to suck it, watching HHH dressing up as Kane and have sex with a corpse, hardcore matches thet are in fact hard core to a street fight that nobody even leaves the ring, a elimination chamber match that nobody gets a scratch from.
And which is better for grooming new fans?The most edgy thing we see now is C.M. Punks bad hair cut after rey cut his hair.
nXtWo begs to differ. Again.5. UFC is killing WWE.
Rising Raw ratings for the last month says WWE is alive and kicking.Vince McMahon say's he is not worried about MMA because it is two different products. He is a liar. I bet you the first thing Vince did today is check the buy rates for last nights UFC ppv.
I'll bet you he that A has people to do that for him, and B really isn't too worried about them. His company is still insanely profitable.For the last 2 years UFC has beaten WWE on PPV buy rates with the exception of Wrestlmania.
and when Dana White thinks Vince is a genius, I think he's right. WWE knows that the market can support both products. Since both products are very profitable, I'm with Vince.I remember the day when you would walk through the mall and all you would see is wrestling shirts. you know what you see now? Tapout, cage fighter, punishment and affliction shirts.
Nostangia is awesome aint it? Sure people are buying tapout shirts, but WWE are still shifting a ton of merchandice. Mostly to kids.And what is sad is that Dana White has done nothing. He cleaned up MMA and got it sanctioned.
Like Vince is doing now?and put out a solid product.
Like Vince is doing now?A product that has sold itself and continues to sell.
Like WWE does now?UFC will be on network television I would venture to say within the next 2 years. Dana does not use pyro or bells and whistles, he says here is my product, and it sells itself.
What will be on UFC TV? Fighters can't fight every week, and why would they do so on TV rather than PPV? UFC's buisness model is incompatible with a weekly TV programme. Note how big boxing matches aren't on TV.Before all of you start saying I am a hater and if I don't like it, don't watch it, think about it this way. I have been a consumer of the product WWE has been putting out for many years. Don''t I have a right to complain when the product fails to meet the expectations of what it used to?
of course you do. You're wrong though.
I am not going to go through each of your rebuttles, but touch on just a few....If you think the product is good, then you have not seen good wrestling. Period! Four matches in 2 hours is not the norm. Let's say that most matches average15 minutes and that is going on the high side, then you take away 12 minutes per hour for commercials, that means that there is 36 minutes of crap an episode. Full of replays of past matches and crap like that. If people think that is not a bad thing, then I imagine they enjoy watching paint dry.
The PG content has not helped bring in new sponsers or advertising. It is the same people each week. Subway, gillette and Pep Boys. Oh...and every video game known to man. And in the ultimate act of hypocrasy, they are games that are rated for MATURE AUDIENCES.
Nobody cares about the NXT show, or the new guys on it. It's ratings blow, and the only reason they get the viewers it does is because they stick a decent WWE guy with them. When Smackdown goes to SYFY this fall, it will cease to exist.
WWE is not subject to regulation by athletic commissions and that is because it is ENTERTAINMENT and not a sport. There is no purse or prize money. Hello?
Yes, just yes....everyone has wrestled everyone time and time again. Orton/Cena, Edge/Cena, Show/Punk, Kane/Taker, Orton/Edge. I could go on and on.
If you think that the production and writing is good, then tell me how I am supposed to believe that a elimination chamber match is supposed to go on without someone bleeding? I will tell you....it doesn't. Well it does if the guys wrestle at 75%.
Again...PG rating but just recently we see a guy simulatedly ran over by a car, then we see repeated car accidents with Bret Hart in the back of a limo? Just what junior needs to see on a PG show.
I guarantee you that the people that buy PPV''s and merchandise are the adults who enjoy wrestling. If I didn't like the show, I guarantee you I wouldn't shell out 45.00 a month for PPV's for my kids unless they had a job!!!
UFC wants to be and will be on Network TV because it means product exposure, advertising, and MONEY!!! It don't matter if the fighters don't fight every week cause they have enough big names to put together a good card regardless.
I am sorry....But you are wrong.