John Cena Injured

[galasura]

i've watch the video where our do goody boy scout tore his right pectoral tendon. wut sacres me is that he got this injury by just doing a simple moves. sometimes no matter how they've planned it, shit happens and he end up almost a year. i hope he will recover soon and return to the ring. i really miss to see him got his ass kicked again in the ring.

[Sandman]

i really miss to see him got his ass kicked again in the ring.

You got that right. It's the only thing I miss about him. Next year's 'Mania will be one of the best, for is the first Wrestlemania in 5 years that Cena isn't there

[Heitaker]

Well I dont care if you didnt like my commenatry, you have your vision of that idiot, I have my vision, you hope he will return, me not.
This is a discussion forum, all have different visions.
Insansity_X, I know that Cena is not the booker but he is an awful wrestler, he can try to do other things apart the FU and STFU and the 5 knuckle, he does nothing more. Also, his "Superman" character is pathetic, he doesnt knows how to act. For example see The Rock, he was also a very limitated wrestler, however he really tried to be better, tried to make new things in the ring, Cena does absolutey nothing. A last thing, Undertaker is the best wrestler in the world.

[Dan]

Well I dont care if you didnt like my commenatry, you have your vision of that idiot, I have my vision, you hope he will return, me not.
This is a discussion forum, all have different visions.
Insansity_X, I know that Cena is not the booker but he is an awful wrestler, he can try to do other things apart the FU and STFU and the 5 knuckle, he does nothing more. Also, his "Superman" character is pathetic, he doesnt knows how to act. For example see The Rock, he was also a very limitated wrestler, however he really tried to be better, tried to make new things in the ring, Cena does absolutey nothing. A last thing, Undertaker is the best wrestler in the world.

You hope he doesn't return. Fine. But you also said you're glad he's injured. It's a cruel and stupid thing to say.

And while I'm at it, writing things like UT's the best wrestler in the world losses any credibly your post had (although my count was zero). You can't say he's the best wrestler in the world, because you do not know every wrestler in the world. He's your favourite, and that's it. Can't you just be content with that, without him having to be the Best.

[Steven]

Whats with all this Cena hating? Saying you hope he will not return? That is incredibly shallow of you to say considering you do not know him. He devotes his time to wrestling, to please you - "the fans," its not really up to him whether he has the title, but the creative team thought it would be a good idea. And it has been working, but he has lost some fans because of it. But regardless, its not really his choice. And he shouldn't be hated because of what the Creative Team/Bookers do. Hes a big draw for WWE and I respect that. As NickieFeet stated earlier in this topic he gives it 110% and works his hardest and best to deliver it all.... And what does he get from some kid? You hope he will never return... How shallow.

[Insanity_X]

(mods, forgive me for flaming)

HT do you LIKE making yourself seem like a stupid biased idiot? becauser you seem to be giving off the impression that you do. The Rock (while he was a better wrestler than Cena) was popular because he was insanely good on the mic. NOT because he tried things in the ring. he was probably a better wrestler as Rocky Mavia. the peoples elbow was wn elbow drop that took longer to perform than the five knuckle shuffle (please note that the five knuckle shuffle is NOT one of cena's finishers) and was used as a finisher. the rock's sharpshooter was performed for worse than the STFU compare the rock's sharpshooter to somebody like Bret Hart's and the difference is clear. Cena DOES perform FAR more moves than the FU (which has the same effect as the rock bottom) and the STFU and he does try things in the ring. John Cena busts his ass in the ring (Chris Benoit said this in a shoot interview with the sun) and kurt angle has said that he is a good worker (bad wrestler though, but nobody is denying that). the fact that Cena was injured and continued to work a match without stopping is very telling. he could have cut the match short or stopped it entirely but he didnt. he continued with the match and post match beatdown (and given his own way would have dropped the belt properly regardless of how much pain he was in) without complaining. When HHH injures his quads he wrestles for a maximum of a couple of minutes cena wrestled for another twelve. Cena does NOT deserve the crap he gets from petty internet fans like yourself HT, he works FAR (last year he was working every event while filming a movie and doing every damn thing the WWE asked of him) harder than most of the people on the roster, NEVER gets in trouble, is willing to do whatever is asked of him. John Cena has more passion for the wrestling buisness in one of his pieces of shit than you do in your whole body HT. have you ever read an article on any wrestling site that claims that cena is complaining backstage(ala half the TNA roster)? or that he shouted at the guy in charge of OVW (ala CM Punk)? have you read, per chance that he got into a fight with a respected wrestler (ala batista)? or even that he has acted in an unprofessional manner in any way at all? Cena (while not a good wrestler, i'm a fan, not a fool) is more professional than most of the roster put together. when Hulk Hogan was booed in WCW they edited the boos so it seemed like the fans were cheering for him. When the rock was booed they turned his X Pac heat into heel heat. John Cena puts asses in seats, draws reactions from the audience (booes or cheers), sells merchandice and makes the company money the WWE is a buisness and buisnesses need money, the guys who sell the merchancice and make the money are pushed and made champs and that is the end of it. the WWE isnt going to push a wrestler who draws 'meh' reactions from the crowd but is a damn fine wrestler, it simply doesnt make sence. Cena like it or not is the best guy to carry the company. he makes the money. he acts professionally. he doesnt simply say that 'i'm getting booed, i quit' he just goes out there and performs. honestly he is the only champ that i feel like i would trust to be a rolemodel to kids, he is the guy i'd chose over any of the other current champs to carry the WWE. not 'i'm better than you because i'm champ' batista, or CM 'i dont like how you looked at me during that speech' Punk. Cena doesnt deserve HALF the crap that people like you give him HT. dont like him then deal with it HT. he's here to stay, dont like, then try complaining about something other than his wrestling ability, we've heard it all before. (and there have been far worse champs than cena). would you hate cena if he was in the midcard? would you hate him if he was doing Val Venis' job on heat? the only reason that you hate him is because he's been pushed too fast. dislike the way hes been shoved down our throughts? dislike dusty, dislike hayes, dislike whoever the hell writes the crap not the guy who works his ass off every night for us. dislike the gimmick? blaim the booker not the guy who performs noght in night out in front of people who are shouting "cena sucks" or "same old shit". HT were you ever bullied at school. do you remember what it felt like being the scapegoat for their own feelings fo inadiquacy. that's how i'd imagine cena feels when he performs infront of people who boo him for doing what he's told. but do we see him looking pissed off at how the fans treat him? no. HT and everybody else who thinks 'yay Cena's injured i hope he never comes back' put yourself in cena's shoes for a moment. how would you feel if it was you being hated for no reason? HT have you ever considered that behind the person who you feel cant wrestle there is a person who puts up with verbal abuse almost every day? HT i'd like to see you A wrestle half as well as cena does (if you could do any better than he does you'd be employed be VKM) and B put put with what he puts up with without losing your temper or reacting in any way at all. of you could do both of those things then i'd be very surprised. in fact i'd be the first to congratulate you but let me assure you that there is no way in hell that i could put up with the level of abuse that Cena gets and i sincerely doubt that you could either.

and also the undertaker is NOT the best wrestler ever. he isnt even the best now. he has a great gimmick and he is just about the only person who could pull it off but that doesnt make him 'the best wrestler in the world'. thats like saying that eastenders is the best tv show in the world' on the grounds that 'i like it and my opinion matters more than anybody else's'. i'm sorry but the undertaker is NOT the worlds best wrestler. he has an awesome gimmick and is a great performer and a good wrestler. but he isnt the best pure wrestler. he has quite possibly the best gimmick in wrestling today but there are simply better wrestlers than him. i can think of quite a few wrestlers that are better pure wrestlers than UT. Kurt Angle, Benoit (rip), most wrestlers working in japan. don't confuse a great performer with a great wrestler.

(HT if you want to continue this debate then take it to PMs because were going very off topic)

but in an on topic note i wish Cena a speedy recovery and i hope that when he comes back that he'll get the reactions that he deserves. (i.e. not boos) or that the creative department will think of a way to incorperate the boos into his gimmick.

[Lucinda]

^^ And THAT was on hell of a post.

Anyway, back to Cena... I heard some people in the wrestling community (there's a wrestling community?) speculating about Cena coming back as a heel. It would indeed be interesting, and as Insanity X mentioned, would be a great way to incorporate the "boos" into the character. Although, I do have a feeling that if Cena suddenly went badass on us, he'd probably start getting some really loud cheers, lol!!

Again, get well wishes to the guy, and I hope he rests at home for the first time in like, 2 years... Yowza. Vacation time!

[Heitaker]

jajajajajaja you really make me laugh a lot, and I thank you for that.
So, only because Cena spend time for wrestling and entretain people (he entretains so well that a lot of people stoped watch WWE because of him) I have to be sad because he is injured?
Me too, I can enter into a ring, do absolutely nothing and for that I will deserve respect? Or in that case, I also must have respect for Kevid Federline? (he also participated in some episodes of RAW).
You know, I have respect for people who really deserves respect, people who really do something remarcable, no matter if that poeple are wrestlers or not, I dont have respect for people only because they enter into a ring, all people in the world can enter into a ring, I can enter into a ring, all of you can do that, but one thing is enter and do a good job, and a different is enter and do nothing. Cena was champion because he is good wrestler? Please, he was champion because a lot of people buy his products, only for that. And I am not going to have respect for a loser like him.
Now, you can call me idiot or stupid or wathever you want, I hear people who really knows something, I dont hear (in this case read) people who knows absolutely nothing but they thing they are wise, because my friends, You can insult me, but some of you make comments that only a 5 year old boy or girl will said, however no, I exagerate, 5 year is too much, 3 years, yes, some of you make comments that are worthy of a 3 year old kid.
Some of you precisely remind me the Cenas character, you act like people who have a lot of respet for all the world, you think you are all very intelligent and think you know all about wrestling and maybe you think that all people must be like you. You all are wrong, You are not ignorants, but your knowledge is very very limitated.

[Steven]

[I apologize in advance for this message]

Heitaker, how old are you? Seriously now.

We're not debating the fact that Cena has good wrestling skills, some people think he does, some people don't. You, obviously don't think he has wrestling skills. We are talking about the fact that YOU said you hope he doesn't come back, which is obviously shallow of you. That is what the whole argument is about; not because Cena has wrestling skills or whatever. Put yourself in his position now please; if you were a wrestler who was making as much as Cena was and obviously had fans, and you were a good product for the WWE that they could market. What would YOU do if YOU were sidelined with a career threatening injury? What would YOU do being sat out for 6 Months to a Year? What would YOU do if you had someone just like you saying that he hopes YOU will never return?

The fact is John Cena gives it his all when he goes out there, he returns it in wrestling, and whether you like it or not, he was working for the WWE and having him as the champion was a good choice. But YOU not respecting a fellow human saying that you hope he will never recover is incredibly shallow, have you no compassion? A person like John Cena who gives so much to his "fans" and gives his time up to entertain "the fans" deserves a little more respect from you! I hate the fact that you are that shallow to say that you hope he never returns. Just who the fuck do you think you are?

[connor]

shamm on john cena its about time he lost the tittle but i dont cvare if he dont come back for a long time im more worried about hbk shawn michaels comeing back

[Insanity_X]

HT because i'm in a good mood and i have some time on my hands i'm going to pick your post apart bit by bit.

jajajajajaja you really make me laugh a lot, and I thank you for that.

thanks, but i think you are an immature moron who is acting like a spoilt brat who is angry that somebody else is playing with the toy you want

So, only because Cena spend time for wrestling and entretain people (he entretains so well that a lot of people stoped watch WWE because of him) I have to be sad because he is injured?

you dont have to be sad that he's injured (who's forcing you to be?) but if you are going to act that because you dont like his character (and it seems to me like you dont like the man full stop) you think that he shouldnt come back to the job he clearly loves then thats BS. HT by all means dislike cena's in ring skills but ffs there is a difference between disliking a TV character and dislikeing the actor because he plays that character. (which is what you are doing)

Me too, I can enter into a ring, do absolutely nothing and for that I will deserve respect?

HT that statement is so rediculus that i'm not even going to bother pondering your logic for saying that

Or in that case, I also must have respect for Kevid Federline? (he also participated in some episodes of RAW).

no HT you dont because there is a difference between somebody who wrestles for no reason other than to advertise his latest CD and doesnt give a shit about the wrestling buisness (Kevin Federline) and somebody who wrestles because he loves wrestling and has a passion for the buisness (John Cena).

You know, I have respect for people who really deserves respect, people who really do something remarcable, no matter if that poeple are wrestlers or not, I dont have respect for people only because they enter into a ring, all people in the world can enter into a ring, I can enter into a ring, all of you can do that, but one thing is enter and do a good job, and a different is enter and do nothing.

HT, i'm glad to know that you actually have the capacity to respect some people but the fact that you claim cena doesnt 'deserve' your respect is just a pile of horse manure. do you know how demanding (both physically and mentally) wrestling is? wrestlers are on the road for god knows how long, seeing their familys a few times a month and yet one wrestler out of the entire roster is the one you choose not to respect despite him working just as hard (if not harder) than the rest of the roster? Cena isnt the best wrestler on the roster but he does far from the 'nothing' that you claim he does HT.

Cena was champion because he is good wrestler? Please, he was champion because a lot of people buy his products, only for that. And I am not going to have respect for a loser like him.

ding ding he finally gets it. that is the SAME DAMN reason anybody gets pushed in this buisness. Taker got pushed because people bought the tickets to see him, people brought the PPVs to watch him people bought the his merchandice. it doesnt matter how good they are in the ring it matters how much money they make the company that pays them. if you are in charge of the WWE who are you going to push the guy with great in ring skills but nobody but a few fans care about, and in the long run isnt going to make you much money; or the guy who has mediocre ring skills but is popular with the majority of the fans (like cena was when he was stared to be pushed) and will make you one hell of a lot of money in the long run. bearing in mind that you are running a BUISNESS (that needs to make money) not just pushing the guys you feel 'earn' your respect.

Now, you can call me idiot or stupid or wathever you want, I hear people who really knows something, I dont hear (in this case read) people who knows absolutely nothing but they thing they are wise

HT i know about as much about the wrestling buisness as you do (niether of us are wrestlers but we read what meltzer and keller say) so to say that we know 'nothing' and that you (despite knowing the same damn stuff that we do) are in some way 'more intelegent' than us is a load of BS.

because my friends, You can insult me, but some of you make comments that only a 5 year old boy or girl will said, however no, I exagerate, 5 year is too much, 3 years, yes, some of you make comments that are worthy of a 3 year old kid.

HT you are making yourself lost what little credability you have left (and you didnt start with much) HT you are the one who is acting like a child not us.

Some of you precisely remind me the Cenas character, you act like people who have a lot of respet for all the world, you think you are all very intelligent and think you know all about wrestling and maybe you think that all people must be like you. You all are wrong, You are not ignorants, but your knowledge is very very limitated.

now it took me a while to understand what you were saying here HT (due to poor grammar not because you are so 'intelegent' but i shall chalk it down to the fact that you are not a native speaker of english). HT as i have said, we all know the same amount about the wrestling buisness as you do (and considerably less than 3XtremeTaker who has actually wrestled properly) and none of us are forcing you to like cena, what we are trying to do is make you understand that cena is a human being and that you ar not treating like one. you are hating him for absolutely no reason at all. you hate how he's been booked but does cena write his matches? does cena decide who he's facing at the next PPV that he's in? does Cena decide anything to go with the current storyline? no he doesnt. by all means HT dislike his character, dislike how hes been booked but for christ's sake dont hate the guy behind the character hes not the thing you hate, you hate the gimmick but ffs give the person behind the gimmick the f'n respect that he deserves. did you ever visit his myspace when he still had one? every single blog he posted was a flamefest but did he ban people from commenting his blogs? no he just respected their opinions and treated them like people. (unlike how people like you treat him).

EDIT: it is infact 3XtremeTaker that has the wrestling experiance not Jo3max.

[3XtremeTaker]

Can't be bothered to make quotes. BUT if people have read the thread, they will know who i'm referring and what i'm referring to.

Insanity_X, nice rant. Also, don't forget the fact that Heitaker probably hates Cena because the internet has told him to. I don't personally think that many of us would dislike Cena if we didn't have Smarks and "writers/propagandists" such as Dave "I know all" Meltzer telling us we shouldn't.

Heitaker, know the forum you're talking to. This is the second time you've accused people on the board of not knowing what they were talking about. The first time, you told DragonPlay she knew nothing about art and then got slapped in the face with her degree. This time, not only have you suggested members of this forum are 3 year olds, you have also said we know nothing about wrestling. As Insanity_X so brilliantly shoved the fact that jo3max has wrestling experience in your face, i feel i can only further embarrass you and tell you that anyone who's been on the forum for longer than a cup of coffee will probably know that I have it too.

I wrestled for 2 years from when i was 14 to when i was 16 and got a job, so couldn't manage to make training myself. In that time i worked with some of the most respected and talented British wrestlers. I wasn't an amazing wrestler - never pretended i was. But i wasn't afraid to be in the ring and do what i could to entertain fans and to have fun in there too. Before you say anything, no i am NOT comparing myself to WWE superstars - i was never of their caliber. but i do know what it is they go through in the ring having been there myself. And the fact that John Cena finished a match when seriously injured (which probably contributed to the fact that he now will be out for close to a year as opposed to 6 months) is a testament to his passion and integrity.

And another thing, Heitaker. Where in the HELL do you come off calling us 3-year olds? You say that everyone on this board who has disagreed with you is a 3 year old? What is that? Pathetic, is one word that springs to mind.

Finally - you ask what Cena has done to "deserve" your respect? Well...what makes you think your respect is worth enough for people to have to do something for it?

3XT

[jo3max]

Wait did I miss something? What's this about me having wrestling experience? lol.

[Insanity_X]

jo3max i confused your name with 3XtremeTaker's name, all i could remembre is that it was somebody with 3 in their name and yours was the only name that i could remember with a 3 in it. i appologise to both of you for the mixup.

[3XtremeTaker]

We both have 3s and Xs...easy mistake to make!!!!

[jo3max]

haha, Now it makes sense. It's cool guys.

[Janus]

I don't like the Cena character at all, but I couldn't help but feel sorry for the guy when he got injured. I'm not gonna lie, I dislike the Cena character and all, the person I don't, but I despise the gimmick... I think it's not nice to enjoy someone getting injured... no matter if they did horrible in the ring.

I hope he has a speedy recovery, and when he does return I hope he refreshes his character and picks up a new move or two... because to be honest the character needs a fresh change, so while he recovers maybe he can come up with new ideas on how to make Cena more tolerable to the people that don't like him.

Get well soon.

[Creatureofthenightuk]

Ok this is a couple of people who need to learn to type before they rant in one liners and those who end up sounding like a 3 year old themselves (in the process of calling others it).

Every wrestler who works their ass off and gets to perform for you deserves respect. Even the bad ones.
Great Khali and the like may be an exception but that is not hear nor there.
I personally like some do not like the Cena character. But he does not write his lines nor decide match finishes. He may have a hand in it but it is not all his fault. Vince had done this at many times with many wrestlers. HBK was booed out of the building at Madison Square Garden, but should we hate the man and wish upon him the injury he got a year or so later? No.
I do not like John Cena the character or how he is handled. However He has had good matches however and I RESPECT him for each time he has stepped in the ring for almost every night of the year. Unlike say em Kevin Fedeline or you. Do you live life away for your family on the road and bash your body around that ring every night because you love it? No.
I also have nothing against John Cena the man and when he is used well like seeing him on TV.

In context to my previous post I did not know the circumstances of the match or injury on Raw as I was not able to watch it. I assumed and apologize for the final statement I made. Although what Taker did with his injury I believe was still remarkable.

In the sum my thoughts are simply that this is a bad thing for WWE and John Cena the man. However I do believe this may be a good thing for John Cena the character as he will be fresh and out of the title picture for awhile. When he returns he will be wanted and hopefully some people go "hmmm you know he wasn't bad" as you see Great Khali VS Batista stinker main events. When he returns he will be cheered, it is up to WWE to keep it that way.

[Knife]

I dont like Cena gimmick as a face "The street hustler" fits better for a heel. Does what he wants and talks shit to people, I liked him alot better as a heel and I hope he comes back and tells the fans to "fuck off" would be awsome.

[Nairoby29]

I watched the move that injured Cena and it a shame that such a simple wrestling move can cause such a big injured. Oh well, I hope he gets well soon and come back refresh

PS: HT has left the building! I'm sure hope he is not my neighbor, because if he wished injured upon somebody because he doesn't like that somebody's wrestling skills imagine what he'll do if I piss him off! OMG I can hear the Undertaker saying to me "Rest....in....peeeeaaaaacccceeeeee" Ooh !it just a video I'm playing Woo!