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Re: John Cena Injured

Postby Dante » Wed Oct 03, 2007 2:55 pm

with taker not yet on the card am i the only one thinking that he maybe drafted to raw and be involved in the wwe championship title picture at no mercy (who knows)
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Re: John Cena Injured

Postby Nickiefeet » Wed Oct 03, 2007 4:48 pm

Ok...I am sure I am gonna catch alot of flack for this, but I am ready.

Any wrestling fan that findsANY amount of delight in another wrestler getting injured, is to me not a true fan of the art history of wrestling, and is pretty much a poopie head.

I am not a huge Cena fan, and will be the first to admit his character is tired and needs some life breathed into it. BUT, I don't want to see a man get injured for that to happen.

I have seen Cena wrestle twice live, and what I saw was a guy give 110% to entertain the fans. He is not the best technical wrestler, and the "Super Cena" thing gets old, but this guy gives his best, and that is enough for me.

You know what I saw monday night? I saw a guy get seriously injured very early on in his match, and gut it out for another 12 minutes, including Orton's Crap at the end. You could see him tell Kennedy and the ref he was hurt but never did you see the ref make an "x" with his arms. (The signal to the backstage people that someone is really hurt), you saw him finish the match one handed.

Even though he didn't suffer through another match like taker, he sucked it up and made it through that match. Heck...I have seen matches that HHH, Mysterio, Sabu, jeff hardy just stopped because they couldnt or wouldn't go on.

Again....the Taker rules, And I am not a chain gang soldier, but I think anyone who makes refrence to anyone being injured as a blessing, even in a joking way needs to stop and look at this for what it truly is...Entertainment.

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Re: John Cena Injured

Postby Steven » Wed Oct 03, 2007 5:35 pm

Well, after hearing the news and everything and the confirmation that the belt has been vacated (13 months in the making, eh?), however; I think this is good because now the title picture gets a freshen up. However, like NickieFeet I don't really see it as a blessing, sure its nice to see the belt off from John Cena. However; it actually quite saddening to think that now WWE have yet again lost more Star Power; one of their biggest pulls to be honest. And however some people think of him as being over-rated the truth is he puts it all into every match, and tries his best to entertain the fans.

Now its just Speculation, Speculation and....more Speculation as to who is going to jump in to get the title this time. :smt006
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Re: John Cena Injured

Postby Nickiefeet » Wed Oct 03, 2007 8:26 pm

Steven wrote:Well, after hearing the news and everything and the confirmation that the belt has been vacated (13 months in the making, eh?), however; I think this is good because now the title picture gets a freshen up. However, like NickieFeet I don't really see it as a blessing, sure its nice to see the belt off from John Cena. However; it actually quite saddening to think that now WWE have yet again lost more Star Power; one of their biggest pulls to be honest. And however some people think of him as being over-rated the truth is he puts it all into every match, and tries his best to entertain the fans.

Now its just Speculation, Speculation and....more Speculation as to who is going to jump in to get the title this time. :smt006


I agree.. I appreciate your agreeing with me on the injury issue. The WWE title did need refreshing and a break from super cena. But lets face it...there is only 2-3 other guys in the business that puts asses in the seats like Cena and thats Taker, HHH, and HBK. Other than than it gets pretty slim. I think there are guys that have potential....The Hardys, Kennedy, and MAYBE Lashley. But let me ask a question....aside from the guys I mentioned...who would you buy a ticket to see? Thats why I wouldnt be a bit suprised to see
Taker show up this sunday ready to become wwe champ. It just makes sense. Entertainment+Talent+Legend+Ratings magnet+largest financial draw for WWE in twenty years. Put them all together and you get THE UNDERTAKER. The new WWE champ
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Re: John Cena Injured

Postby Creatureofthenightuk » Thu Oct 04, 2007 3:02 am

Okay first of all I respect Cena for being a good talent and a constant yardstick week in week out. He worked hard for his figure and had never been suspended once.
However I do think his recent injury is in a way a good thing. Raw will now have a fresh main event scene leading up to and including Mania -however I do expect Triple H to be in it which is dated.
It may also be good for Cena himself because with the fans not being able to say the "Super Cena" deal is getting stale. He may now be missed by the fans now he is gone which will make them realize what a good addition he is. This may be the thing that turns around the Cena haters of which I am one foot on either side. When he returns he will be able to do something new and the fans will have missed him.
On a side note I do think the younger guys should learn by example of Trips and Taker. Triple H injured, he continues with the match. Undertaker Injured, he wrestles a Last man standing AND cage match before taking time off. Baggytista, Edge and Cena get injured and they take their ball and go home. Funny that.
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Re: John Cena Injured

Postby Fidelis » Thu Oct 04, 2007 5:05 am

I agree with you Nickefeet. Shame on everyone for being happy about Cena being injured! The boy is a little sweetheart who's worked his ass off day in and day out for the company. It ain't his fault the WWE has tried to shove him down our throats like the next Hulk. He just wants to entertain people, Vince and Creative are the ones to blame for his obscene title run. I don't think it's good that he's injured, but it is an opportunity to push new guys now that deserve it, I hope they take this opportunity and run with it. Cena will have the title again, but other wrestlers need their chance to shine as well.

Anyhow, that friggen SUCKS. I hate to see him injured. He's worked so hard to keep himself in the peak physical condition that he's in, and it's just got to be frustrating to no end to be injured like that. Here's hoping it heals well, and he enjoys his time off. Lord knows he deserves it.

And you all will be happy to see his pretty face when he gets back, just watch. :smt004
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Re: John Cena Injured

Postby Nickiefeet » Thu Oct 04, 2007 5:23 am

On a side note I do think the younger guys should learn by example of Trips and Taker. Triple H injured, he continues with the match. Undertaker Injured, he wrestles a Last man standing AND cage match before taking time off. Baggytista, Edge and Cena get injured and they take their ball and go home. Funny that.[/quote]

I totally disagree....Cena got hurt in the first 2 minutes of the match. He went on for another 11 minutes. When HHh blew out his quad, he was maybe in there for another 4 minutes tops. I think Cena showed his guts by finishing the match. I think Taker's injury and Cena's are very different. The Pectoralis Major is a much larger muscle group and the tendon he tore is much larger than what Taker tore. Although I am sure Taker's arm hurt like hell and he probably had a hard time even making a fist. I talked to an orthopedic surgeon at the hospital I work at and he said that Cena was probably in incredible pain just breathing. They didn't let Edge wrestle after he tore the same tendon either.

What is happening in the wwe is the same thing that is happening in the NFL and other sports. Guys are learning how to make their muscles bigger and stronger, but you cant strengthen do workouts to make the connective tisssue (tendons) stronger and they are just pulling away from the bone.

I hate Hogan and Orton, but I would never wish injury on them.
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Re: John Cena Injured

Postby galasura » Thu Oct 04, 2007 11:35 am

I think everyone here knows already that i hate this character do goody boy scout cena. I dun gives a shit wheather he gives his 110% or 1000% hell i dun care...im not impressed becoz i never get excited by his performance. But yea i dun wish him to get injured and i praise his effort to carried out the match till the end although suffering a major injury on the same time. To be honest, i would love more to see him lose his title by getting his ass kicked in the ring. WWE should have finish him off his title to Orton b4 he got injured. This will make his character seems much more indistructible coz he lose his title due to an injury and before, nobody's able to kick his stink ass out of his throne. Well...look at the bright side....at least there'll be a big changes in RAW (even in this pathetic way) and everybody seems loving it
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Re: John Cena Injured

Postby ItsMyYard2006 » Thu Oct 04, 2007 11:58 am

Injury wise this has been quite the year. Almost every major star missed a good amount of time b/c of injury. Undertaker, HBK, HHH, Edge, Bobby Lashly, John Cena...etc. I just hope from this point on we don't see anyone else have a severe injury. Also like I said before, Im not a huge Cena fan, but he has worked harder than anyone else. For 3 years he has been the top guy whether he is champion, or chasing it. There are many things that go along with that which most people don't know about. 3 years of non-stop pressure of being the top guy is tough. Now he can get some much needed rest.
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Re: John Cena Injured

Postby Heitaker » Thu Oct 04, 2007 4:17 pm

Thanks god he is injured. I hope he will never return.
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Re: John Cena Injured

Postby Nickiefeet » Thu Oct 04, 2007 4:40 pm

Heitaker wrote:Thanks god he is injured. I hope he will never return.


That has to be the most well planned, thought out post I have ever read on this site. I mean you really put your heart and soul into that one. And showed your true intelect and character....I applaud you :ohyeah

I also bet you are the type of wrestling fan that would shove aside a little kid just so you can shout something as intelligent as your post to your favorite super star. You are probably also the type of fan that stands up during the whole event assuring that nobody behind you for 15 rows can see.

You know what kills me...the owners and moderators of this site probably have the BEST, fan based wrestling web site on the internet. With the most educated passionate wrestling fans on the planet. But I can't and won't speak for anyone else, but when I read a post like yours, it just makes me wanna vomit.

Passion for the sport is one thing, praising god that someone has been hurt is another. Either joking or not. I really feel sorry for you.
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Re: John Cena Injured

Postby galasura » Thu Oct 04, 2007 5:30 pm

Heitaker wrote:Thanks god he is injured. I hope he will never return.


wakakaak...this is too much :smt005 :smt005

yes cena character is really pathetic...the do goody boy scout john cena....but i dun want him off forever from wwe. He's just a superstar between type B n C...just an average wrestler but he did give his full effort to win the heart of the fans altough he failed badly to amaze me lol but there's still alot of fans who love to see him again. Still i give him some credit for his passion n effort. I just hate to see him being the champ for 3 years, too long and ultimately indistructible with just using those limited, weak n boring technique. But still he deserve to be in the ring and i think its too much if to wish him never to return coz lot of ppl still love seeing him in the ring again.
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Re: John Cena Injured

Postby MJR » Thu Oct 04, 2007 6:51 pm

galasura wrote:But still he deserve to be in the ring and i think its too much if to wish for him never to return coz lot of ppl still wanna love seeing him in the ring.

you are 100% right i would love to see cena back in the ring but not a wwe ring he would be best in a tna ring :smt006
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Re: John Cena Injured

Postby Phenom0666 » Thu Oct 04, 2007 9:05 pm

I agree with everything that you have said nickiefeet ,sure its nice..no..Its GREAT to FINALLY see a new wwe champ crowned BUT , at the price of Cena getting injured is certainly not something that I like and would have preferred him to lose it by means of creative deciding it was time for a change rather than a somewhat forced decision to have him drop the belt . I say this because had it not been a "forced" decision then we could have ended up with a good enough non title feud featuring Cena and someone ,while Orton and most likely Triple H occupied title also it would be an indication that creative finally realised that have this whole Super Cena thing wasn't working at all ,having a guy be in the title scene and hold the title for as long as Cena has is not what the fans want and overall they would have realised that things really needed freshening up .

I firmly believe that Cena has real passion for this business and for the fans ,he may not be the most skilled wrestler and to some the most entertaining wrestler but the guy gives off his best night in and night out ,he puts out the effort and shows real desire ,passion and love for this business and especially the fans .Cena always makes time for his fans does everything he can to please them .I personally don't like watching Cena's matches all that much but I have to give credit where credit is due .Overall ,this is a scripted sport ,I don't like to refer to it as just entertainment because it takes alot of time ,training and experience aswell as a hell of a lot of guts and determination to do the things that they do in the ring , creative decides the wrestlers gimmicks, whether they win or lose ,how their matches go ,what spots are done etc and thus there is not much that the individual can do about many things especially the results of his matches ,so as much as we all dislike Cena's "Super Cena " character and mega long title reign we certainly CANNOT hold it against Cena personally because he is merely doing as he is told and doing his job ,the guys who really need or dislike and anger are the creatives whom come up with ridiculous storylines , matches ,gimmicks ,results etc .

I wish Cena a speedy recovery and hope that in the mean time things seriously get freshened up and livened up on RAW in the wwe title scene ,this is creatives opportunity to revive the fans interest and keep the fans interested ,a new champ will be crowned, most likely Orton , and creative can start to build from there and move forward with fresh ideas .

I doubt 'Taker will be moved to RAW as a result of Cena's injury ,mainly because RAW has most of the WWE's star power as it is and removing 'Taker form SD would make SD ratings collapse drastically and leave the brand even more bare and lacking star power than it already is . I don't know where Jericho is going to fit in all of this but it certainly is going to be interesting to see what creative does with him especially since his return is imminent and a major blow to the wwe title match has just been dealt with Cena's injury .
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Re: John Cena Injured

Postby Insanity_X » Thu Oct 04, 2007 9:48 pm

Heitaker wrote:Thanks god he is injured. I hope he will never return.

Heitaker, next time YOU rip your pectoral clean off the bone how about you tell me so i can visit you in hospital and tell you that i hope to god that you never recover so ou can tell me how it feels. John Cena is NOT the worlds best wrestler... but then niether is UT. (i'm a fan, not delusional). cena works he arse off in the ring, and regardless for weather you like him or you hate him he gets reactions, which is more that quite a lot of 'better' wrestlers. the only thing that i think that you (and the rest of the IWC) dis like about cena is not his fault. he had a lonfg title run but is his name vince macmahon? is his name michael hayes? is his name 'big dick johnson'? no it isnt. is John Cena the booker? no. who decides who wins? the bookers. who decides when cena drops his title? cos it sure as hell isnt him. Cena is a good worker, good performer, good entertainer and an ok wrestler. all that people like you HT do is decide that you dont like him and justify it later. dont like cena think up some GOOD reasons (i.e. not 'he cant wrestle', or 'his title run has been too long' or he sucks because he doesnt have a decade old gimmick that if it debuted today would be laughed out of the building' (yes i did say that, and mean every word)) HT justify youself or Funk off. theres a reason that i started liking Cena (i disliked him when he was on SD) and you (and the rest of the mindless, stupid, annoying, 'i hate cena because melzer said he sucks' smarks are the reason. HT what is john cena's submission finisher called? i jugest you do just that.
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Re: John Cena Injured

Postby 3XtremeTaker » Thu Oct 04, 2007 11:35 pm

This goes out specifically to Heitaker and to The Deadman Unleashed.

I think you two are disgusting. For one man to comment on another's injury with pleasure is vile. Sure: Boo and jeer him when he's in the ring. That's your prerogative. But for the love of god...that man has given you, as a wrestling fan, his heart and his soul for the past 3 years as a champion/challenger, and for countless years before that as a rookie, an up-and-comer, and a US Champ.

Sure, the guy may not be a technically sound wrestler. Sure, his rapper gimmick may have become stale. Perhaps thats why you haven't seen him rap in about a year and a half. Sure, in today's wrestling world, a year and a bit is a long time to be a champion, especially a world champion - but you can in NO WAY doubt nor detract from his courage, his drive, his ambition to get better, his desire to please crowds, his passion for the industry.

Frankly, Heitaker and TDU - you two make me sick. And how you can call yourself true wrestling fans when you can celebrate another man's, a performer's and, (what essentially can be seen as), another FAN's injury is beyond me.



To those who suggest that younger stars need to take advice from the more experienced veterans - i propose the following cases:
-Cena - completes his match with Mr Kennedy despite being in a considerable (and visible on second viewing of the match) amount of pain. Not only this, but he also completes a story-progressing segment with the view to continuing his storyline until the pay-per-view. Obviously, the thoughts running through his mind are not "oh, i'm injured, owee, i best ask for some time off". Instead, they're "i've got a job to do and i have a job to do in 2 weeks time - suck it up!". Admirable to say the least.

-Edge - i'm pretty DAMN sure he would have continued any match he was involved in if his injury had happened in a match. Just so happened that the injury came about in a segment with Kane

-Victoria - this did happen a while back and it could be seen as minor, but as a way to show that the divas are just as tough as the guys, at Survivor Series in 2002, Victoria suffered an injury to her face in her hardcore match with Trish Stratus - she bled a lot, from very early on in the match and was visibly uncomfortable and uneasy. She still managed to tough it out and finish the match, and win the womens championship.



Just three examples. But there are countless others.

This is a great loss to the WWE and an unfortunate incident for Cena. Seriously bad timing for both. All i can say is it's a great shame when anyone gets injured, and it is not something you wish for. Unfortunately it happens in wrestling. It says Cena will be out anywhere from 6 months to a year. Something tells me it's more likely to be closer to the first figure than the last. Get well soon Cena and i hope to god the "fans" realise just what you give us each time you step into that ring and give you the cheers you deserve.
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Re: John Cena Injured

Postby Nickiefeet » Fri Oct 05, 2007 5:35 am

Phenom0666 wrote:I agree with everything that you have said nickiefeet ,sure its nice..no..Its GREAT to FINALLY see a new wwe champ crowned BUT , at the price of Cena getting injured is certainly not something that I like and would have preferred him to lose it by means of creative deciding it was time for a change rather than a somewhat forced decision to have him drop the belt . I say this because had it not been a "forced" decision then we could have ended up with a good enough non title feud featuring Cena and someone ,while Orton and most likely Triple H occupied title also it would be an indication that creative finally realised that have this whole Super Cena thing wasn't working at all ,having a guy be in the title scene and hold the title for as long as Cena has is not what the fans want and overall they would have realised that things really needed freshening up .

I firmly believe that Cena has real passion for this business and for the fans ,he may not be the most skilled wrestler and to some the most entertaining wrestler but the guy gives off his best night in and night out ,he puts out the effort and shows real desire ,passion and love for this business and especially the fans .Cena always makes time for his fans does everything he can to please them .I personally don't like watching Cena's matches all that much but I have to give credit where credit is due .Overall ,this is a scripted sport ,I don't like to refer to it as just entertainment because it takes alot of time ,training and experience aswell as a hell of a lot of guts and determination to do the things that they do in the ring , creative decides the wrestlers gimmicks, whether they win or lose ,how their matches go ,what spots are done etc and thus there is not much that the individual can do about many things especially the results of his matches ,so as much as we all dislike Cena's "Super Cena " character and mega long title reign we certainly CANNOT hold it against Cena personally because he is merely doing as he is told and doing his job ,the guys who really need or dislike and anger are the creatives whom come up with ridiculous storylines , matches ,gimmicks ,results etc .

I wish Cena a speedy recovery and hope that in the mean time things seriously get freshened up and livened up on RAW in the wwe title scene ,this is creatives opportunity to revive the fans interest and keep the fans interested ,a new champ will be crowned, most likely Orton , and creative can start to build from there and move forward with fresh ideas .

I doubt 'Taker will be moved to RAW as a result of Cena's injury ,mainly because RAW has most of the WWE's star power as it is and removing 'Taker form SD would make SD ratings collapse drastically and leave the brand even more bare and lacking star power than it already is . I don't know where Jericho is going to fit in all of this but it certainly is going to be interesting to see what creative does with him especially since his return is imminent and a major blow to the wwe title match has just been dealt with Cena's injury .


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Re: John Cena Injured

Postby deadman07 » Fri Oct 05, 2007 6:11 am

i felt bad when i heard abt Cena's injury and then vacating the title since i really want him to loose his WWE championship to Orton at No Mercy but at the same time i wish him to recover soon. :smt002
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Re: John Cena Injured

Postby KingBooker » Fri Oct 05, 2007 8:32 am

Are you people insane? A blessing in disguise?

This is the worst way for him to lose his title! For 2 years superstars have been fed to cena, in his super man push. The next champion will be second rate, because super man wasnt deafeted. Are you guys really ok? Do you really think the product will turn around? Oh look the earthquake has finished, every one is dead, but its ok now! No it doesnt work like that. Now is the after math and is time for a long, long rebuilding process
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Re: John Cena Injured

Postby TakerWesker » Fri Oct 05, 2007 11:12 am

This is a very BAD thing to happen to Cena and the WWE. They don't need another injury to add to their injury woes and suspensions. I can bet that WWE can't wait for 2007 to end. I try to look at the positives in things, though, and will say this. Cena is injured badly, and there is nothing he can do about it. But the positive out of this isn't a new champion, it's the fact that Cena now gets a rest. He's been going full tilt for several years now, so it's good that he gets some time off to rest and recuperate and come back better than ever. 6 months is more of a hibernation than a rest, though, and I'm sure he's pretty much heartbroken that he can't return sooner. I just hope that he doesn't try to return too soon, because another tear could end his career. Now, some people may read this incorrectly and think that I'm glad Cena is injured. I'm in no way, shape or form remotely glad that he's injured, I just think it's good that he can get some time off.
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