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Re: John Cena Injured

Postby KingBooker » Tue Oct 09, 2007 8:11 am

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HT do you LIKE making yourself seem like a stupid biased idiot? becauser you seem to be giving off the impression that you do. The Rock (while he was a better wrestler than Cena) was popular because he was insanely good on the mic. NOT because he tried things in the ring. he was probably a better wrestler as Rocky Mavia. the peoples elbow was wn elbow drop that took longer to perform than the five knuckle shuffle (please note that the five knuckle shuffle is NOT one of cena's finishers) and was used as a finisher. the rock's sharpshooter was performed for worse than the STFU compare the rock's sharpshooter to somebody like Bret Hart's and the difference is clear. Cena DOES perform FAR more moves than the FU (which has the same effect as the rock bottom) and the STFU and he does try things in the ring. John Cena busts his ass in the ring (Chris Benoit said this in a shoot interview with the sun) and kurt angle has said that he is a good worker (bad wrestler though, but nobody is denying that). the fact that Cena was injured and continued to work a match without stopping is very telling. he could have cut the match short or stopped it entirely but he didnt. he continued with the match and post match beatdown (and given his own way would have dropped the belt properly regardless of how much pain he was in) without complaining. When HHH injures his quads he wrestles for a maximum of a couple of minutes cena wrestled for another twelve. Cena does NOT deserve the crap he gets from petty internet fans like yourself HT, he works FAR (last year he was working every event while filming a movie and doing every damn thing the WWE asked of him) harder than most of the people on the roster, NEVER gets in trouble, is willing to do whatever is asked of him. John Cena has more passion for the wrestling buisness in one of his pieces of shit than you do in your whole body HT. have you ever read an article on any wrestling site that claims that cena is complaining backstage(ala half the TNA roster)? or that he shouted at the guy in charge of OVW (ala CM Punk)? have you read, per chance that he got into a fight with a respected wrestler (ala batista)? or even that he has acted in an unprofessional manner in any way at all? Cena (while not a good wrestler, i'm a fan, not a fool) is more professional than most of the roster put together. when Hulk Hogan was booed in WCW they edited the boos so it seemed like the fans were cheering for him. When the rock was booed they turned his X Pac heat into heel heat. John Cena puts asses in seats, draws reactions from the audience (booes or cheers), sells merchandice and makes the company money the WWE is a buisness and buisnesses need money, the guys who sell the merchancice and make the money are pushed and made champs and that is the end of it. the WWE isnt going to push a wrestler who draws 'meh' reactions from the crowd but is a damn fine wrestler, it simply doesnt make sence. Cena like it or not is the best guy to carry the company. he makes the money. he acts professionally. he doesnt simply say that 'i'm getting booed, i quit' he just goes out there and performs. honestly he is the only champ that i feel like i would trust to be a rolemodel to kids, he is the guy i'd chose over any of the other current champs to carry the WWE. not 'i'm better than you because i'm champ' batista, or CM 'i dont like how you looked at me during that speech' Punk. Cena doesnt deserve HALF the crap that people like you give him HT. dont like him then deal with it HT. he's here to stay, dont like, then try complaining about something other than his wrestling ability, we've heard it all before. (and there have been far worse champs than cena). would you hate cena if he was in the midcard? would you hate him if he was doing Val Venis' job on heat? the only reason that you hate him is because he's been pushed too fast. dislike the way hes been shoved down our throughts? dislike dusty, dislike hayes, dislike whoever the hell writes the crap not the guy who works his ass off every night for us. dislike the gimmick? blaim the booker not the guy who performs noght in night out in front of people who are shouting "cena sucks" or "same old shit". HT were you ever bullied at school. do you remember what it felt like being the scapegoat for their own feelings fo inadiquacy. that's how i'd imagine cena feels when he performs infront of people who boo him for doing what he's told. but do we see him looking pissed off at how the fans treat him? no. HT and everybody else who thinks 'yay Cena's injured i hope he never comes back' put yourself in cena's shoes for a moment. how would you feel if it was you being hated for no reason? HT have you ever considered that behind the person who you feel cant wrestle there is a person who puts up with verbal abuse almost every day? HT i'd like to see you A wrestle half as well as cena does (if you could do any better than he does you'd be employed be VKM) and B put put with what he puts up with without losing your temper or reacting in any way at all. of you could do both of those things then i'd be very surprised. in fact i'd be the first to congratulate you but let me assure you that there is no way in hell that i could put up with the level of abuse that Cena gets and i sincerely doubt that you could either.

and also the undertaker is NOT the best wrestler ever. he isnt even the best now. he has a great gimmick and he is just about the only person who could pull it off but that doesnt make him 'the best wrestler in the world'. thats like saying that eastenders is the best tv show in the world' on the grounds that 'i like it and my opinion matters more than anybody else's'. i'm sorry but the undertaker is NOT the worlds best wrestler. he has an awesome gimmick and is a great performer and a good wrestler. but he isnt the best pure wrestler. he has quite possibly the best gimmick in wrestling today but there are simply better wrestlers than him. i can think of quite a few wrestlers that are better pure wrestlers than UT. Kurt Angle, Benoit (rip), most wrestlers working in japan. don't confuse a great performer with a great wrestler.

(HT if you want to continue this debate then take it to PMs because were going very off topic)

but in an on topic note i wish Cena a speedy recovery and i hope that when he comes back that he'll get the reactions that he deserves. (i.e. not boos) or that the creative department will think of a way to incorperate the boos into his gimmick.


Dude you contradict your self so much. Before you said Cena does a few moves like FU then you said he does far more. Then you deny that u said taker is the best in the world! Then you say the rock was only populer for the mike. Did u watch wwe when cena was the badass on smackdown! He was great on the mic! Then after posts of anti cena u start sucking up saying he puts guys in seats, and gets the audiance, when raw has had ratings slip the pas year, like 3.7-3.1! When Edge was champ it was like 4.6! Make up your mind be for posting such comments! :smt014
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Re: John Cena Injured

Postby Insanity_X » Tue Oct 09, 2007 5:17 pm

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Insanity_X wrote:(mods, forgive me for flaming)

HT do you LIKE making yourself seem like a stupid biased idiot? becauser you seem to be giving off the impression that you do. The Rock (while he was a better wrestler than Cena) was popular because he was insanely good on the mic. NOT because he tried things in the ring. he was probably a better wrestler as Rocky Mavia. the peoples elbow was wn elbow drop that took longer to perform than the five knuckle shuffle (please note that the five knuckle shuffle is NOT one of cena's finishers) and was used as a finisher. the rock's sharpshooter was performed for worse than the STFU compare the rock's sharpshooter to somebody like Bret Hart's and the difference is clear. Cena DOES perform FAR more moves than the FU (which has the same effect as the rock bottom) and the STFU and he does try things in the ring. John Cena busts his ass in the ring (Chris Benoit said this in a shoot interview with the sun) and kurt angle has said that he is a good worker (bad wrestler though, but nobody is denying that). the fact that Cena was injured and continued to work a match without stopping is very telling. he could have cut the match short or stopped it entirely but he didnt. he continued with the match and post match beatdown (and given his own way would have dropped the belt properly regardless of how much pain he was in) without complaining. When HHH injures his quads he wrestles for a maximum of a couple of minutes cena wrestled for another twelve. Cena does NOT deserve the crap he gets from petty internet fans like yourself HT, he works FAR (last year he was working every event while filming a movie and doing every damn thing the WWE asked of him) harder than most of the people on the roster, NEVER gets in trouble, is willing to do whatever is asked of him. John Cena has more passion for the wrestling buisness in one of his pieces of shit than you do in your whole body HT. have you ever read an article on any wrestling site that claims that cena is complaining backstage(ala half the TNA roster)? or that he shouted at the guy in charge of OVW (ala CM Punk)? have you read, per chance that he got into a fight with a respected wrestler (ala batista)? or even that he has acted in an unprofessional manner in any way at all? Cena (while not a good wrestler, i'm a fan, not a fool) is more professional than most of the roster put together. when Hulk Hogan was booed in WCW they edited the boos so it seemed like the fans were cheering for him. When the rock was booed they turned his X Pac heat into heel heat. John Cena puts asses in seats, draws reactions from the audience (booes or cheers), sells merchandice and makes the company money the WWE is a buisness and buisnesses need money, the guys who sell the merchancice and make the money are pushed and made champs and that is the end of it. the WWE isnt going to push a wrestler who draws 'meh' reactions from the crowd but is a damn fine wrestler, it simply doesnt make sence. Cena like it or not is the best guy to carry the company. he makes the money. he acts professionally. he doesnt simply say that 'i'm getting booed, i quit' he just goes out there and performs. honestly he is the only champ that i feel like i would trust to be a rolemodel to kids, he is the guy i'd chose over any of the other current champs to carry the WWE. not 'i'm better than you because i'm champ' batista, or CM 'i dont like how you looked at me during that speech' Punk. Cena doesnt deserve HALF the crap that people like you give him HT. dont like him then deal with it HT. he's here to stay, dont like, then try complaining about something other than his wrestling ability, we've heard it all before. (and there have been far worse champs than cena). would you hate cena if he was in the midcard? would you hate him if he was doing Val Venis' job on heat? the only reason that you hate him is because he's been pushed too fast. dislike the way hes been shoved down our throughts? dislike dusty, dislike hayes, dislike whoever the hell writes the crap not the guy who works his ass off every night for us. dislike the gimmick? blaim the booker not the guy who performs noght in night out in front of people who are shouting "cena sucks" or "same old shit". HT were you ever bullied at school. do you remember what it felt like being the scapegoat for their own feelings fo inadiquacy. that's how i'd imagine cena feels when he performs infront of people who boo him for doing what he's told. but do we see him looking pissed off at how the fans treat him? no. HT and everybody else who thinks 'yay Cena's injured i hope he never comes back' put yourself in cena's shoes for a moment. how would you feel if it was you being hated for no reason? HT have you ever considered that behind the person who you feel cant wrestle there is a person who puts up with verbal abuse almost every day? HT i'd like to see you A wrestle half as well as cena does (if you could do any better than he does you'd be employed be VKM) and B put put with what he puts up with without losing your temper or reacting in any way at all. of you could do both of those things then i'd be very surprised. in fact i'd be the first to congratulate you but let me assure you that there is no way in hell that i could put up with the level of abuse that Cena gets and i sincerely doubt that you could either.

and also the undertaker is NOT the best wrestler ever. he isnt even the best now. he has a great gimmick and he is just about the only person who could pull it off but that doesnt make him 'the best wrestler in the world'. thats like saying that eastenders is the best tv show in the world' on the grounds that 'i like it and my opinion matters more than anybody else's'. i'm sorry but the undertaker is NOT the worlds best wrestler. he has an awesome gimmick and is a great performer and a good wrestler. but he isnt the best pure wrestler. he has quite possibly the best gimmick in wrestling today but there are simply better wrestlers than him. i can think of quite a few wrestlers that are better pure wrestlers than UT. Kurt Angle, Benoit (rip), most wrestlers working in japan. don't confuse a great performer with a great wrestler.

(HT if you want to continue this debate then take it to PMs because were going very off topic)

but in an on topic note i wish Cena a speedy recovery and i hope that when he comes back that he'll get the reactions that he deserves. (i.e. not boos) or that the creative department will think of a way to incorperate the boos into his gimmick.


Dude you contradict your self so much. Before you said Cena does a few moves like FU then you said he does far more. Then you deny that u said taker is the best in the world! Then you say the rock was only populer for the mike. Did u watch wwe when cena was the badass on smackdown! He was great on the mic! Then after posts of anti cena u start sucking up saying he puts guys in seats, and gets the audiance, when raw has had ratings slip the pas year, like 3.7-3.1! When Edge was champ it was like 4.6! Make up your mind be for posting such comments! :smt014


i never said that the undertaker was the best in the world Heitaker did. (i just contradicted him) i said that taker has a great gimmick NOT that he was the best wrestler in the world. compare the Rock to Rocky Mavia. cena has basicly gone through the same process backwards. (on SD he was cutting great promos and was popular) rocky mavia was booed out of the building he joins the nation of domination and quickly establishes himself as the best talker in the buisness. THAT'S the difference that talking can make. HT said that cena does a few moves i contradicted that. and the 3.7-3.1 ratings are in a very different climate to how it was when Edge was champ. have you noticed how much some sections of the media have been condemning wrestling since the benoit double-murder suicide i think that's had a FAR greater effect on the ratings than cena being champ. also i dont think i've ever bashed cena (infact i stared a thread asking why people bash cena so relentlessly). and cena does get audience reactions (whether pops or xpac heat) which quite a few wrestlers do not.

btw KB were you addressing me? because there isnt as far as i can tell not a thing in your post that applies to anything i've said (in the quoted message or otherwise). if you were not then i appologise for offending you in some way. if i did say those things (which i cant find in the message you quoted). the only thing that you said in that could be applied to my original post is that i have said that cena is a bad wrestler (as a pure wrestler, lets face it he IS bad wrestler but his moveset isnt limited to the three moves that HT claims it is).
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Re: John Cena Injured

Postby Luke » Tue Oct 09, 2007 6:53 pm

I wanted to contribute to this thread but I don't really have much else to add, majority of others have already expressed the appropriate sentiments.

All I can say is that it is obviously bad for Cena and also bad for the company to lose their top guy in some respect, but looking at the positives that can come out such a negative is the fact that it has forced WWE not to rely on Cena and freshen up the WWE Championship title picture. With Orton as champ now and the likes of Triple H, Shawn Michaels and Chris Jericho all getting involved over the coming weeks/months, it makes for an interesting main event scene on Raw.

As for all those expressing happiness at Cena being injured for whatever reason, that's just not the way to look at it. One can be happy with the fact that the WWE Title has now changed hands and that the title picture will now be freshened up, but to express delight at Cena getting injured is just distasteful and disrespectful and I can't believe such people would be complete and utter morons. There, no more ranting from me, enough of it has been done already.

I hope John makes a completely successful and speedy recovery, he should also make the most of the time off that he's got to have a long overdue rest after the mammoth schedule he's been working over the past few years. In the meantime, the only ironic positive is that we get something different on Raw, a revitalised title picture that doesn't involve John Cena, but that by no means implies that I am happy that Cena got injured and isn't an excuse for anybody else to have the attitude that his injury is such a great thing.

Get well soon John, hope you're holding up okay!
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Re: John Cena Injured

Postby Lucinda » Tue Oct 09, 2007 7:08 pm

Not to sound sappy or anything, but Cena seemed really sad during his "interview" or whatever it was on RAW this week. Now, it may be due to really good acting skills (or skillz, haha), but he seemed genuinely upset that he couldn't be there, couldn't be in the action, away from the fans that he obviously loves so much. I feel even more sorry for him now than I did when I first heard about the injury. Poor guy, I hope he rests up during this time and maybe get a nice girlfriend (or boyfriend :smt002) and just chiiiiiiiil. Hopefully that will help his sorrow about being away from doing what he loves best.

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Re: John Cena Injured

Postby Knife » Wed Oct 10, 2007 12:25 am

Seems like Kennedy got a nitch for injuring people... first taker and now Cena!
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Re: John Cena Injured

Postby Nairoby29 » Wed Oct 10, 2007 2:23 am

Knife wrote:Seems like Kennedy got a nitch for injuring people... first taker and now Cena!


Don't forget dead too, Eddie Guerrero's last match was with Mr. Kennedy. Poor guy couldn't wrestler for a month because some fans shout to him "you kill Eddie" at every match. :smt009
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Re: John Cena Injured

Postby Steven » Wed Oct 10, 2007 4:58 pm

Kennedy did not injure Cena. It was done by a bad hip-toss, just a little basic move (as some people see it), has caused this. It was not Kennedy's fault.
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Re: John Cena Injured

Postby KingBooker » Wed Oct 10, 2007 8:10 pm

This no ones fault, these things happen, every one makes mistakes and unfortunately this is what happend. This is no fault of any one
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Re: John Cena Injured

Postby jblsucks » Mon Oct 15, 2007 9:08 pm

Cena as heel would rock! People would actually like that. Except maybe the kids. I'd would love it he told the kids to 'stick it' and 'fuck you'. That would make me actually respect Cena again and not this 'superhuman overcome the odds' Cena, but the one back in 2004 when he was a rapper.
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