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Postby rsl » Fri May 26, 2006 7:05 pm

Orlando Jordan released
May 26, 2006

World Wrestling Entertainment has come to terms on the release of WWE Superstar Orlando Jordan. WWE wishes him all the best in his future endeavors.


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Postby undertakerfan » Fri May 26, 2006 7:09 pm

Hmm. There was a period not so long ago I thought he was doing alright, but really in the last while when you think about it he was anonymous. It is slightly surprising. I thought he had some talent and was under used. A pity really. I wish him all the best.
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Postby The Darkside » Fri May 26, 2006 9:05 pm

Orlando Jordan had great talent, and he was under-used by WWE. I wish Orlando Jordan the best in his future endeavors.
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Postby Vcdeadman » Fri May 26, 2006 9:19 pm

He did had great talent but WWE as they have started a tradition of not using wrestlers properly kept on and here's the result.

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Postby BoogerRedsGirl » Fri May 26, 2006 9:51 pm

This could be a blessing in disguise, considering the ridiculous "bisexual" angle that they wanted O.J. (not Simpson, hehe) to do.

Good luck, O.J. (again, not Simpson)

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Postby Michael » Fri May 26, 2006 9:51 pm

OJ had alot of talent, and WWE wasn't using him right, so they release him? I wish OJ the best in the future.

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Postby jo3max » Sat May 27, 2006 1:10 am

That's too bad. I did like Orlando Jordan but I haven't seen him wrestle in awhile. Instead of firing him, he should've either been in the U.S. Title scene, or paired up with someone to help rejuvinate the tag team division.
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Postby BoogerRedsGirl » Sat May 27, 2006 2:47 am

Well, don't forget, he did hold the United States title, and that reign plain sucked due to the fact that he barely defended the damn thing...Plus, having him not only job to Chris Benoit constant in less than 25 seconds did not help O.J.'s cause. From there, I started to think that his release was inevitable.

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Postby jo3max » Sat May 27, 2006 4:02 am

That goes back to the brilliance of the creative team. Like everyone's said, he wasn't used well. This actually is a good thing for Jordan. He won't have to do that what would've been, embarrassing bixsexual angle as you said BRG. Maybe a soon-to-be TNA acquistion?
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Postby The Darkside » Sat May 27, 2006 5:43 am

jo3max wrote:That goes back to the brilliance of the creative team. Like everyone's said, he wasn't used well. This actually is a good thing for Jordan. He won't have to do that what would've been, embarrassing bixsexual angle as you said BRG. Maybe a soon-to-be TNA acquistion?


If Orlando Jordan goes to TNA he will be a NWA World Heavyweight Title contender. TNA knows how to use Superstars correctly, so I wouldn't be surprised if TNA tries to get Orlando Jordan, which I hope TNA does. Then we will be able to see Orlando Jordan's talents, and he will be a NWA World Heavyweight Title contender. TNA uses their Superstars correctly, and if TNA can sign Orlando Jordan then that will be a big addition to TNA.
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Postby Token1425 » Sat May 27, 2006 8:55 am

Poor Orlando Jordan getting released, he had so much talent. Hopefully he gets signed by TNA which is a company who knows how too use people correctly.
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Postby Vcdeadman » Sat May 27, 2006 9:51 am

Token1425 wrote:Poor Orlando Jordan getting released, he had so much talent. Hopefully he gets signed by TNA which is a company who knows how too use people correctly.


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Postby BoogerRedsGirl » Sat May 27, 2006 11:33 am

Well, look at what the WWE did to Christian (Cage), a prime example of a "rags-to-riches" story. He languished in the mid-carder division in the WWE for most of his career and barely scratched the surface of becoming a main-event before being "shot" down by the company, per his (requested) release. Now he is in the spotlight (where he rightfully deserves) as the current NWA/TNA Heavweight Champion. Despite their pisspoor acquisitions as of late (i.e., Scott Steiner), you cannot deny TNA their ability to make something of their talent, especially the ones entering from the WWE in If they can do it to Christian, there should be no reason as to why they couldn't do it to Orlando Jordan as well, provided he will be given a more charismatic personality.

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Postby Dan » Sat May 27, 2006 2:03 pm

The Darkside wrote:If Orlando Jordan goes to TNA he will be a NWA World Heavyweight Title contender. TNA knows how to use Superstars correctly, so I wouldn't be surprised if TNA tries to get Orlando Jordan, which I hope TNA does. Then we will be able to see Orlando Jordan's talents, and he will be a NWA World Heavyweight Title contender. TNA uses their Superstars correctly, and if TNA can sign Orlando Jordan then that will be a big addition to TNA.

What? No way. This is Orlando Jordan we're talking about. I have nothing against OJ, he was a good all-rounder, but he wasn't over, unlike Christian, who so obviously should have been pushed all the way by WWE.

If they do pick him up they could definitely make better use of him but to thrust the guy into the title scene will make TNA look like a joke. They have a ton of good talent to focus on now, they don't need every single WWE reject.

TNA isn't all good IMO. Look at what they're doing with Christian. They've turned him into a generic good guy with no personality. Where's the cocky, cowardly Christian that got him over in the first place? Argh, I'll get into a TNA rant another time...
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Postby 3XtremeTaker » Sat May 27, 2006 2:19 pm

Dan, I completely agree with you. TNA isn't all it's cracked up to be. The majority of people seem to be talking about how great it is, and how they will push superstars the way they should have been in WWE, but let's not forget that if WWE hadn't brought them to TV in the first place, there wouldn't be as much buzz about TNA signing them.

It all seems too familiar to me. TNA hires WWE rejects. Where has that happened before? Oh, i know, WCW in the early days. Hogan. Savage. Luger. Hall. Nash. All big names who jumped ship. And these already pushed superstars didn't leave much space for younger superstars to shine. Guerrero. Jericho. Mysterio. Benoit. All made the opposite jump and got the pushes they so rightly deserved.

By hiring almost every superstar that is released by WWE, TNA are putting themselves into 2nd place. They hired Christian, Christy, Jackie, Gail Kim, The Dudleyz (all 3 of them now, apparently), Rhino and more recently Scott Steiner. It just seems to me as though they have become the WWE dumping ground. Although by hiring some of them, WWE seems to take more notice of the superstars they didnt pay as much attention to. Shannon Moore was recently rehired. Jeff Hardy has been getting feelers. I'm not saying TNA shouldn't hire superstars who aren't with WWE anymore, but they just seem to be going down the wrong road. But i do hope the competition brings the best back out of WWE.
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Postby The Darkside » Sat May 27, 2006 6:37 pm

3XtremeTaker wrote:Dan, I completely agree with you. TNA isn't all it's cracked up to be. The majority of people seem to be talking about how great it is, and how they will push superstars the way they should have been in WWE, but let's not forget that if WWE hadn't brought them to TV in the first place, there wouldn't be as much buzz about TNA signing them.

It all seems too familiar to me. TNA hires WWE rejects. Where has that happened before? Oh, i know, WCW in the early days. Hogan. Savage. Luger. Hall. Nash. All big names who jumped ship. And these already pushed superstars didn't leave much space for younger superstars to shine. Guerrero. Jericho. Mysterio. Benoit. All made the opposite jump and got the pushes they so rightly deserved.

By hiring almost every superstar that is released by WWE, TNA are putting themselves into 2nd place. They hired Christian, Christy, Jackie, Gail Kim, The Dudleyz (all 3 of them now, apparently), Rhino and more recently Scott Steiner. It just seems to me as though they have become the WWE dumping ground. Although by hiring some of them, WWE seems to take more notice of the superstars they didnt pay as much attention to. Shannon Moore was recently rehired. Jeff Hardy has been getting feelers. I'm not saying TNA shouldn't hire superstars who aren't with WWE anymore, but they just seem to be going down the wrong road. But i do hope the competition brings the best back out of WWE.


If you look at the TNA ratings, its mostly 18-34 or 34-49 that gets the ratings. I think the older audience realises that TNA is the real deal, not saying that I am old, but the 18-34 and 34-49 audience is giving TNA the ratings, and we understand that TNA is the real deal. Now yes there are some of the older auidences that aren't into TNA, but most of the older audience realises that TNA is the real deal. (No offence) What some people don't understand is that yes, TNA does grab WWE Superstars, but what most people don't understand is TNA needs to gain popularity, and by gaining WWE Superstars that have been released it will gain popularity for TNA. Look at Smackdown's ratings at the moment, and then look at TNA's ratings. TNA is a quicker pace style of wrestling that WWE used to have, which WWE started off at a quicker style wrestling matches, and look where WWE is now. TNA knows how to use their Superstars, unlike WWE where they just waste good talents, example Orlando Jordan. If Rene Dupree went to TNA, TNA would show his talents and he would be used better in TNA. Sorry for going off-topic here, but if you are talking about TNA being this 2nd rated wrestling show that just grabs WWE Superstars, then you don't know what real wrestling is. (No offence) Quite frankly I say TNA is going to compete with WWE by 2008-2009 if WWE keeps going the way they are right now. WWE is going in the wrong direction and TNA is going in the right direction.

Again sorry for going off-topic.
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Postby Dan » Sat May 27, 2006 7:48 pm

The Darkside wrote:If you look at the TNA ratings, its mostly 18-34 or 34-49 that gets the ratings. I think the older audience realises that TNA is the real deal, not saying that I am old, but the 18-34 and 34-49 audience is giving TNA the ratings, and we understand that TNA is the real deal. Now yes there are some of the older auidences that aren't into TNA, but most of the older audience realises that TNA is the real deal. (No offence) What some people don't understand is that yes, TNA does grab WWE Superstars, but what most people don't understand is TNA needs to gain popularity, and by gaining WWE Superstars that have been released it will gain popularity for TNA. Look at Smackdown's ratings at the moment, and then look at TNA's ratings. TNA is a quicker pace style of wrestling that WWE used to have, which WWE started off at a quicker style wrestling matches, and look where WWE is now. TNA knows how to use their Superstars, unlike WWE where they just waste good talents, example Orlando Jordan. If Rene Dupree went to TNA, TNA would show his talents and he would be used better in TNA. Sorry for going off-topic here, but if you are talking about TNA being this 2nd rated wrestling show that just grabs WWE Superstars, then you don't know what real wrestling is. (No offence) Quite frankly I say TNA is going to compete with WWE by 2008-2009 if WWE keeps going the way they are right now. WWE is going in the wrong direction and TNA is going in the right direction.

Again sorry for going off-topic.

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I'm a big supporter of TNA. I don't think anyone said TNA was 2nd rate in terms of wrestling. Generally the quality of their matches is better than WWE. But it's really a matter of opinion. Techincally the X-Division is not real wrestling at all. You ask any veteran and they'd say it's just a bunch of guys jumping and flipping around with no in-ring psychology. That's acrobatics not wrestling. I'd agree with part of that, I love watching the X-Division matches but there's no story being told in the ring a lot of the time.

As you say, they need to sign all this former WWE talent to gain notoriety. Steiner makes sense, despite his shady run in WWE not so long ago, people are going to tune in to see what's he doing, I can't say the same for OJ though. I believe a majority of their ratings come from the fall out from the UFC shows, people aren't specifically watching TNA because they know it's coming on.

There's also this little thing called ECW. Which has to be threat to TNA. They've already taken Sabu, Rhyno's considering jumping ship and who knows who else will go. The money's better, the promotion's bigger, you can't blame them. As soon as TNA become a noticable threat, I see Vince crushing them. :smt035
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Postby The Darkside » Sat May 27, 2006 8:21 pm

Dan wrote:
The Darkside wrote:If you look at the TNA ratings, its mostly 18-34 or 34-49 that gets the ratings. I think the older audience realises that TNA is the real deal, not saying that I am old, but the 18-34 and 34-49 audience is giving TNA the ratings, and we understand that TNA is the real deal. Now yes there are some of the older auidences that aren't into TNA, but most of the older audience realises that TNA is the real deal. (No offence) What some people don't understand is that yes, TNA does grab WWE Superstars, but what most people don't understand is TNA needs to gain popularity, and by gaining WWE Superstars that have been released it will gain popularity for TNA. Look at Smackdown's ratings at the moment, and then look at TNA's ratings. TNA is a quicker pace style of wrestling that WWE used to have, which WWE started off at a quicker style wrestling matches, and look where WWE is now. TNA knows how to use their Superstars, unlike WWE where they just waste good talents, example Orlando Jordan. If Rene Dupree went to TNA, TNA would show his talents and he would be used better in TNA. Sorry for going off-topic here, but if you are talking about TNA being this 2nd rated wrestling show that just grabs WWE Superstars, then you don't know what real wrestling is. (No offence) Quite frankly I say TNA is going to compete with WWE by 2008-2009 if WWE keeps going the way they are right now. WWE is going in the wrong direction and TNA is going in the right direction.

Again sorry for going off-topic.

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I'm a big supporter of TNA. I don't think anyone said TNA was 2nd rate in terms of wrestling. Generally the quality of their matches is better than WWE. But it's really a matter of opinion. Techincally the X-Division is not real wrestling at all. You ask any veteran and they'd say it's just a bunch of guys jumping and flipping around with no in-ring psychology. That's acrobatics not wrestling. I'd agree with part of that, I love watching the X-Division matches but there's no story being told in the ring a lot of the time.

As you say, they need to sign all this former WWE talent to gain notoriety. Steiner makes sense, despite his shady run in WWE not so long ago, people are going to tune in to see what's he doing, I can't say the same for OJ though. I believe a majority of their ratings come from the fall out from the UFC shows, people aren't specifically watching TNA because they know it's coming on.

There's also this little thing called ECW. Which has to be threat to TNA. They've already taken Sabu, Rhyno's considering jumping ship and who knows who else will go. The money's better, the promotion's bigger, you can't blame them. As soon as TNA become a noticable threat, I see Vince crushing them. :smt035


The X-Division is better than WWE's Cruiserweight Division right now. WWE dosen't have alot of Superstars in the Cruiserweight Division, unlike TNA's X-Dvision where their roster for the X-Division is sorted out. I think TNA's X-Dvision is better than WWE's Cruiserweight Division right now.

UFC is a big part in TNA's success. People are watching UFC, and when UFC is done you see TNA Wrestling, and people start wondering what product this is, so they watch it. TNA does gain their popularity off of UFC, but TNA also gains popularity by gaining WWE Superstars. But if TNA wants to compete with WWE then TNA will have to pick up their own talent and not rely on WWE for Superstars.

ECW will be a big threat to TNA. There are guys like Sabu who have already signed with ECW, Rhino is considering jumping to ECW, and I wouldn't be surprised if there are a few others who are considering jumping ship to ECW. I think when TNA becomes a noticable threat to WWE, Vince will start improving WWE and we will see the WWE that we saw back in the 90's, well it was WWF back in the 90's. I think if TNA can pick up their own Superstars and develop them and not rely on WWE for Superstars, then I see Vince in big trouble. But of course Vince is becoming a billionare, and it would be easy for Vince to crush TNA, but I wouldn't be so sure of that yet.
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Postby Luke » Sun May 28, 2006 1:16 am

Well now that you've all had your TNA rants, I'll refer back to the topic, or am I just not seeing the words "WWE vs. TNA vs. ECW" in the topic title? :smt003

Out of all the people who WWE could have got rid off, I wouldn't have thought Orlando Jordan would have been at the top of the list. As opposed to his talent, it seems it may have been something to do with an "unauthorized person" travelling with him and attending shows, being backstage at events, which pissed off WWE management.

I wasn't ever big on Jordan to be honest, so I'm rather unheartedly not that bothered about his release. He pretty much disappeared after he lost the US Championship did he not? Once he became titleless and JBL's Cabinet no longer existed, I think Orlando became one of the many Superstars who WWE creative found it difficult to find something for. That aside, as always, good luck to anyone who gets fired from WWE, OJ included, they always need it I think. Like a few others, I don't think Orlando Jordan should be picked up by TNA, I don't actually see him "fitting in" to be perfectly honest, can't quite put my finger on why.

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Postby The Darkside » Sun May 28, 2006 1:47 am

Luke wrote:Well now that you've all had your TNA rants, I'll refer back to the topic, or am I just not seeing the words "WWE vs. TNA vs. ECW" in the topic title? :smt003

Out of all the people who WWE could have got rid off, I wouldn't have thought Orlando Jordan would have been at the top of the list. As opposed to his talent, it seems it may have been something to do with an "unauthorized person" travelling with him and attending shows, being backstage at events, which pissed off WWE management.

I wasn't ever big on Jordan to be honest, so I'm rather unheartedly not that bothered about his release. He pretty much disappeared after he lost the US Championship did he not? Once he became titleless and JBL's Cabinet no longer existed, I think Orlando became one of the many Superstars who WWE creative found it difficult to find something for. That aside, as always, good luck to anyone who gets fired from WWE, OJ included, they always need it I think. Like a few others, I don't think Orlando Jordan should be picked up by TNA, I don't actually see him "fitting in" to be perfectly honest, can't quite put my finger on why.

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I see Orlando Jordan fitting in perfectly with TNA. I think if Orlando Jordan went to TNA then we will see his talents, and we would see Orlando Jordan in the NWA World Title hunt. Anyone that goes to TNA will be used like their supposed to be used in my opinion. Of course the WWE Creative Team isn't creative and they couldn't find anything for Orlando Jordan, so Vince releases him. I hope Orlando Jordan goes to TNA and I hope TNA uses him correctly and hopefully it will come back to haunt Vince. I love when Vince releases talents and their big stars in TNA that gains them popularity, example Christian Cage. The same should be said with Orlando Jordan. If Orlando Jordan goes to TNA, it would gain TNA popularity and he would be used correctly. If WWE keeps releasing good talent like Orlando Jordan, and good talent like Orlando Jordan to go TNA and become stars, then it will come back to haunt WWE.
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