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Death Valley Lexis: Survivor Series 2009 Predictions
Filed in Blogs From The Dark Side. Posted by Jen on November 20th, 2009. Add Comments? [14]

I must say that I am a fan of Survivor series and of its traditional elimination matches. Maybe its because Undertaker made his debut at this second-longest running PPV, or maybe its because he single-handedly eliminated all competition in 1995 (Mabel’s team, which included HHH). Over the years, my PPV predictions have got worse ;-) perhaps because I’m not watching WWE regularly, but usually they have a track record of being right as far as the Undertaker is concerned (except for Hell in a Cell 2009 :-P ).

Undertaker vs Chris Jericho vs Big SLow: Undertaker starts the 20th year of his WWE career, so it is impossible that he will lose this in my opinion ;-) I’m going with it that Undertaker retains his title simply because he was given the title while he was not 100% fit. The WWE has luckily not deferred his title reign (which was cut short last year after he was “stripped” off the belt and “banished”), and they have been giving him tag-team matches, fatal four-ways and now a triple-threat so that he doesn’t have to work hard throughout the whole match. They are allowing him to take it easy and yet retain the belt, which gives me signs of a longer title reign. So, I’m assuming that this will cause the break-up between Jericho and Big SLow (which was anyway predictable looking at the way they have been having short arguments or disagreements on Raw/ Smackdown, and the way Big SLow turned off the lights to scare Jericho). MVP/ Mark Henry or Legacy are most likely to win the tag-team championship from SLow and Jericho due to their break-up, and at the next PPV we could have a match to determine who will be the # 1 contender. Jericho will win it by hook or by crook to become the # 1 contender and go on to have a good match with Undertaker at Mania. It will have all the ingredients of a “good” wrestling match. I’d prefer if they work on Jericho’s character in the mean time to make it look stronger by then. Big SLow can then have a feud with Kane if he wants. Will the real Kane please stand up and show his might, when that happens? Winner: Undertaker.

John Cena vs HHH vs Shawn Michaels: I think its important to discuss this match also because a lot of people have been predicting Undertaker vs John Cena at Wrestlemania 26. In my estimation, this is how the story will go (this prediction of mine is a little unconventional, but somehow it makes sense to me when its all put together): Shawn Michaels wins this match! It is almost certain that he would be retiring soon, and before that happens, the last man whom he would have a match with has got to be HHH at Wrestlemania. Assuming that is going to happen at Mania 26, why not give Shawn a 4-5 month title reign before it? It would be even better for the build-up if he pins HHH for the title at this match instead of Cena. One of them could turn heel (most probably HHH). HHH could later win the elimination chamber at No Way Out to get his title shot against Michaels at Mania. He will then win the belt from Shawn at Mania after what would be a “match of the year” candidate next year, and then Shawn will call it quits. They will hug after the match, and there you have HHH turning face again. His reign will be short, though. He will soon drop the belt to Orton or Cena. Meanwhile, since John Cena would be out of the title scene after the elimination chamber at No Way Out, there wouldn’t be a focus point for him until Wrestlemania. I don’t see him winning the Rumble again and challenging Undertaker/ moving to Smackdown only to lose the match at Mania. He will then put himself in the Raw vs Smackdown brand supremacy match at Mania against Batista, who will easily get selected as the representative of Smackdown since he won the match for Smackdown in 2008 against You-Mangah. This will also allow for culmination of their rivalry which started in Summerslam 2008 but then was left unfinished. This time, the heel Batista will lose it and they will leave it at 1-1 for the time being. Winner: Shawn Michaels.

Now for some non-Undertaker related talk. I’ll keep it short, just for the sake of completion of the topic.

Batista vs Mysterio: The only singles’ match on the card? You’ve got to be kidding me. Batista already lost a singles’ match against Mysterio in a PPV due to the referee’s mistake. There is no way he is losing again to that midget. If WWE want to keep pushing one of these 2, I would assume it has to be Batista (like 2005) due to his physique, ability to stay in the ring with stronger guys and everything else. It would look unbelievably way out of proportion if he loses this. Winner: Batista.

Team Michelle vs Team Mickie: Ok, I love Michelle’s team due to Michelle and Beth Phoenix. However, since they won their match in the last PPV, I’m going with it that Mickie and Melina put together will be very heavy for the opponent team. Winner: Team Mickie James.

Team Orton vs Team Kingston: I hate Kingston since the day he got a clean victory over Kane. Orton’s been on a low the last few weeks. William Regal is one weak-point in his team. But assuming that Punk, Orton and Legacy have a plan, this win should pump Orton up because he is obviously the better performer and character. Winner: Team Orton.

Team Morrison vs Team Miz: Is the Miz’s team strong or what? Swagger, Sheamus, McIntyre. But well, since they have their own internal issues (Swagger wanted to lead the team and then Miz insulted him after he lost to Bourne), I’m predicting that Morrison’s team will do something to come out on top. Winner: Team Morrison.


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Posted by miso

shawn will not win the titel…WWE still planning keep DX together….Its been set tour in january at europe so i dont see DX split up ……


Posted by Becky

Miso right Cena will keep his title but all of other predictions I do agreed with.


Posted by Tombstone_City

Just a quick comment in regards to the Big Show/Jericho relationship. I wouldn’t be at all surprised if the two of them had their own rivalry up to Mania 26 and we saw a Show/Jericho match there. This would then leave the path clear for a Taker/Cena match. Good post all in all, I agree with the majority of predictions, especially the Taker match. There’s no way either Jericho or Show will win the title at this stage, if at any point in the near future.


Posted by Trindle

Undertaker is celebrating his 19th year in the WWE, not 20. He began in 1990 so 2009 would equal 19. 2010 would be 20 years in the business.

Jericho can’t have a number one contenders match at Armageddon and then go to Wrestlemania to face Taker. He’d have to win the royal rumble first so his match against Big Show would simply be a regular match.

And your reasoning for hating Kofi makes no sense. Yeah he beat Kane, but so what…Kane lasted longer in the Elimination Chamber match then Kofi did. And it was Evan Bourne who won the best new finisher of the year beating out Undertaker’s Hell’s Gate.

Also, if you remember correctly the Survivor Series was a ppv where there weren’t any singles matches whatsoever. Hogan/Taker was the first, I think, to feature a singles match at the ppv. And Batista and Rey had a match on Smackdown in the Bragging Rights time frame and Rey won cleanly with no mistakes so Batista will win under the pretence he just wants to hurt Rey and that Rey already owns a victory over Batista.


Posted by Mayank Shridhar

Trindle wrote:

Undertaker is celebrating his 19th year in the WWE, not 20. He began in 1990 so 2009 would equal 19. 2010 would be 20 years in the business.

Right, which is why I said he “starts” his 20th year.

Trindle wrote:

Jericho can’t have a number one contenders match at Armageddon and then go to Wrestlemania to face Taker. He’d have to win the royal rumble first so his match against Big Show would simply be a regular match.

Well, Taker was in the title scene from Cyber Sunday 2007 to Wrestlemania 2008. Jericho can find a way to stay in it from “after Armageddon” to Wrestlemania after becoming the # 1 contender. Or who knows, he might win the Rumble? But I think the chances of that are less.

Trindle wrote:

And your reasoning for hating Kofi makes no sense. Yeah he beat Kane, but so what…Kane lasted longer in the Elimination Chamber match then Kofi did. And it was Evan Bourne who won the best new finisher of the year beating out Undertaker’s Hell’s Gate.

You’re right about Bourne – my mistake. But I will continue to hate Kofi and its my reason and my wish and it makes sense to me ;-) I mean, he beat KANE! The big mean a** kicking machine who used to single handedly dominate DX, Austin, Rock, etc. We all know who the real Kane is. I think Kofi was pushed that far only because of lack of mid-card talent in the WWE – otherwise there is no way he will ever match the legacy of the original Kane.

Trindle wrote:

Also, if you remember correctly the Survivor Series was a ppv where there weren’t any singles matches whatsoever. Hogan/Taker was the first, I think, to feature a singles match at the ppv. And Batista and Rey had a match on Smackdown in the Bragging Rights time frame and Rey won cleanly with no mistakes so Batista will win under the pretence he just wants to hurt Rey and that Rey already owns a victory over Batista.

I don’t remember whether Taker vs Hogan was the 1st singles match in it or not. Last year there were 3 singles matches – so the fact that there is only 1 singles match this time surprises me. Either the Cena vs HHH vs Shawn match has been done to give the title to Shawn, or it has been kept simply as a means to break the DX partnership.


Posted by VieSinCalaway

Well I have to disagree with you this time Mayank as I’m not seeing any sign of a DX break up yet- but I have to say your predictions are always pleasures to read. I still go with my hope of a Triple Threat or Fatal Four Way plus something else for the next WM. Perhaps it won’t happens in reality-but who knows, you can always imagine, that’s how you use your imagination and hope. But the only thing I know, and everybody knows, that no matter whatsoever, ‘Taker is having a long reign.


Posted by Justin Alon

I am in agreeance with Mayank Shridher about these predictions! Undertaker will retain the title at Survivor Series and Shawn Michaels will become the new WWE Champion! DX will not break up yet due to not showing signs of arguements during their time together! As for the Cena vs Taker thing at Wrestlemania,, Undertaker will become 18-0 and Cena will Rest in Peace!


Posted by kingundertaker

I would love to see Shawn win the title again i’d probably like that even more than i’ll like taker retaining at survivor series, however I wouldnt want to see a Shawn vs HHH feud again, I can’t see how some can be ok with that but against a taker vs kane feud again to me….its the same. As far as Cena goes I would like to see him vs batista at mania but that means I don’t get to see Cena turn heel which I would rather have(maybe a batista/cena tag team)but the really big wild card is the Royal Rumble who will win the Royal Rumble? Some say Hardy, i’d love to see taker vs hardy at mania.

and hey….I like Kofi, I think its great to have someone finally knock Orton around, doesn’t matter if hes beat Kane or not because who hasn’t done that in the last few years?


Posted by Alex

Mayank,

One thing is for sure. This is his long title reign and he will retain his title atleast till Mania. Having said that, for sure Show and Jericho would screw each other up big time and fall a prey to the Deadman.

The only thing I am interested is how Kane is going to involve in this. As per my previous blog Kane might Betray Taker again. Even if it dosen’t happen, Taker might give Kane an opportunity at the title at TLC 09 by trying to return the favor as Kane might help Taker win the title at SS 09. Though I don’t see this comming right now, I still feel there is also a 1% chance for Taker turning on Kane for a brief heel turn.

Team Orton vs Team Kofi, I agree with you in this match as well. Team Orton is going to win. But I have this funny feeling that Orton is going to PUNT Kingston and put him off for a few months. The WWE might work on a charachter change for Kingston by removing him off the Jamaican personna and his Reggae-type entrance music and would try adding a more African (West Ghana) type personna to him. I wouldn’t be surprized if he turns heel.

Batista and Rey, Batista should win it. But WWE is crazy, and I am afraid Batista might do another Kane in matches with Rey. Even if Batista loses, he will surely win at Armagaddeon, because I am sure he will challenge Taker for a match for the WHC at RR 09.

Team Michelle vs Team Mickie, well, I am a Beth Phoenix fan, and I will be happy if she ends up as the last woman standing. This woman deserves a push. But this is again wishful thinking.

Team Morrisson vs Team Miz. It’s simple. Miz won at BR 09. So it’s now for the turn of Morrison to win at SS 09. Morrison might give the Miz a Starship Pain after Jack Swagger Gutwrench Powerbombs him. After that, possibly Swagger might get the push by winning the US title in the near future from Miz.

Michaels/Cena/Triple H match, I am sure Triple H is not going to win it. It’s either Cena or Michaels. May be Michaels might turn heel by betraying Triple H, because we have seen Triple H turn on Michaels before. It might not happen as well, as we have seen too many betrayals in the recent past in the WWE like Rey/Batista or Matt/Jeff Hardys etc. Or in the midst of a Triple H/Michaels disagreement, Cena might steal the win, as Miso said that a DX invasion tour is scheduled for this January.


Posted by Kalimba

I hope that Shawn wins the title also. It’s been way too long since HBK was champion. It would be a nice change from the Trips/Orton/Cena storyline that is getting way old and boring imo. HHH should consider himself to be lucky to be HBK’s sidekick. Without HBK (and of course stephanie mcmahon) trips would only be a midcarder.

Earlier I was thinking about the top 5 wrestlers of all time in my humble opinion and I think Taker, HBK, and Bruno Sammartino (sp?) have to be the top 3 but I couldn’t decide who is #1. Even though I’m a huge Taker fan, I also respect HBK and all that’s he’s done for the WWE. I think it would be fitting for him to have one last title reign before retiring again.


Posted by Alex

Kalimba wrote:

I hope that Shawn wins the title also. It’s been way too long since HBK was champion. It would be a nice change from the Trips/Orton/Cena storyline that is getting way old and boring imo. HHH should consider himself to be lucky to be HBK’s sidekick. Without HBK (and of course stephanie mcmahon) trips would only be a midcarder.

Earlier I was thinking about the top 5 wrestlers of all time in my humble opinion and I think Taker, HBK, and Bruno Sammartino (sp?) have to be the top 3 but I couldn’t decide who is #1. Even though I’m a huge Taker fan, I also respect HBK and all that’s he’s done for the WWE. I think it would be fitting for him to have one last title reign before retiring again.

Well said Kalimba. Trips would have only been a mid-carder but for HBK and Stephanie. So hopefully, Trips might return the favor for all that HBK has done to his career by letting him win the title for one last time.


Posted by Mayank Shridhar

VieSinCalaway wrote:

Well I have to disagree with you this time Mayank as I’m not seeing any sign of a DX break up yet- but I have to say your predictions are always pleasures to read.

Thanks, but I have a feeling that in this rated PG-13 era, DX can’t last for very long. It was just a great way to bring back Shawn, to push Legacy (since DX lost to them at Breaking Point) and a way to keep HHH-Shawn together once again so that they can have one last feud after one of them betrays the other. Moreover, there is no tag team which can stand in front of DX but they can’t dominate the youngsters forever. So, they probably have to break up to allow the new generation superstars like Legacy become strong tag-teams as they are the ones who have to run the show in the future.

kingundertaker wrote:

I wouldnt want to see a Shawn vs HHH feud again, I can’t see how some can be ok with that but against a taker vs kane feud again to me….its the same.

If Shawn turns heel, then it should be interesting. But I have a feeling that he will remain face in his last few months in the company. However, I am sure that HHH will be the last wrestler that Shawn faces at Mania, so the feud – no matter how short-lived – has to happen. They haven’t had a singles’ match at Mania before.

Alex wrote:

Team Michelle vs Team Mickie, well, I am a Beth Phoenix fan, and I will be happy if she ends up as the last woman standing. This woman deserves a push. But this is again wishful thinking.

Even I am a Beth fan and she’s my favourite of all the divas, but recently she’s been jobbing a bit to “weaker” divas and that’s what scares me. I don’t think her team will win again since they won in the last PPV. I would be all for it if she is the last woman standing, though.

Alex wrote:

Kalimba wrote:

HHH should consider himself to be lucky to be HBK’s sidekick. Without HBK (and of course stephanie mcmahon) trips would only be a midcarder.

Well said Kalimba. Trips would have only been a mid-carder but for HBK and Stephanie. So hopefully, Trips might return the favor for all that HBK has done to his career by letting him win the title for one last time.

Well, I am not as big a fan of HHH as I am of Taker but I still consider that HHH has great talent. Yeah he might not be as good an in-ring performer as Shawn, but he probably has something that made Steph marry him? He’s damn smart – you can make that out from the fact that he is the one doing most of the promos for DX in which Shawn gets only about 10% of the mic-time that HHH gets. He’s also very funny at times ;-) and he also works with WWE creative, so he’s got some creativeness there in his grey cells also. He has contributed a lot to the business because he was the main-eventer in the attitude era along with Austin and Rock, and he was leading DX during the days when Shawn was out due to injury. Remember the instance when DX invaded Nitro ;-) ?

Moreover, though a lot of people think that he is always putting down the younger stars, I think that he has shown leadership to an extent. Didn’t he form Evolution? Why was the team called Evolution? Basically he and Flair were mentoring Batista and Orton. And once they became capable of being main-eventers themselves, they left Evolution – so effectively, they “evolved” from HHH and Flair. And didn’t HHH job to Batista completely in 2005 when he lost the title to him and lost his re-matches (including hell in a cell) to give Batista the main-event push?

Guys – Taker said in his “This is My Yard” DVD that HHH in his opinion is the best of the best and that if he had to do a promo, he would start with HHH and that he thinks HHH will end up getting his role as locker-room leader when he’s gone. I believe in everything that Taker says just because he’s the most respected there ever was!


Posted by Kalimba

Mayank Shridhar wrote:

Guys – Taker said in his “This is My Yard” DVD that HHH in his opinion is the best of the best and that if he had to do a promo, he would start with HHH and that he thinks HHH will end up getting his role as locker-room leader when he’s gone. I believe in everything that Taker says just because he’s the most respected there ever was!

How come I don’t remember that? Hmm, I’m going to have to go back and watch that DVD. Where does he say that on the DVD?


Posted by Mayank Shridhar

Don’t remember which part – I think its in the part where he discusses his Mania match with HHH.